eUps pre-airport for regulars since Amadeus
#196
Join Date: Feb 2019
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#197
Join Date: Sep 2011
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That was a major underestimation: 1 hour 20 minutes for the call to be answered, then 10 minutes for the agent to figure out that she could not solve the issue as everything looked fine, and then after her warning me that she often has to wait up to an hour for her internal call to be answered i was another 45 minutes on hold until she came back to say that my request had now been made. However, I have no confirmation of this nor any way to confirm this electronically as I cannot access my eup file.
#198
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 495
WL at T-14 for 2 pax J7 R0. YYZ-FLL. Cleared at just less than T-72 J5. SE but no concierge intervention. Lots of emails to confirm including a new itn. Was originally booked in comfort and new itn even shows BVRG. Lots of info!
Special Service Request EUPG - EUPGRADE - CONFIRMED
DOCS - PASSENGER/CREW PRIMARY TRAVEL DOCUMENT INFO - CONFIRMED
BVRG - FREE BEVERAGE - CONFIRMED
Special Service Request EUPG - EUPGRADE - CONFIRMED
DOCS - PASSENGER/CREW PRIMARY TRAVEL DOCUMENT INFO - CONFIRMED
BVRG - FREE BEVERAGE - CONFIRMED
#200
Join Date: Sep 2011
Programs: Aeroplan Elite for life; Fairmont Platinum; Delta Platinum Plus
Posts: 324
I still cannot access my eupgrade account or transaction history, as I still get the error message, so I have to take their word for it that the request has been made.
#201
Join Date: Sep 2011
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Tried using the online complaint tool and this is the response:
We appreciate your feedback. You can rest assured that an Air Canada representative will get back to you as soon as possible. Thank you for your patience as you wait to hear from us
We are currently experiencing higher volumes and some cases may take up to 3 weeks for a response. Thank you for your patience as you wait to hear from us.
This of course is not useful as my flight is in 9 days.
#202
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For me, I can see all of my eUpgrade account information without issues... the full transaction history, being able to upgrade, cancel my upgrade, etc.
But I can't view any of my bookings list! It just coughs up an error on the page. I have to punch in the locator to view each individual booking.
But I think I've been lucky so far as in that is the only "major" problem I've had since the migration. *knock on wood*
#203
Join Date: Sep 2011
Programs: Aeroplan Elite for life; Fairmont Platinum; Delta Platinum Plus
Posts: 324
I can see My Bookings but not the other thing. I was also getting a "Bad Request" message on various parts of the AC Website the other day but not in the last couple of days.
#204
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE 1MM, Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 3,397
The lack of understanding on this even at the SE desk is mind boggling. Situation: T<24. B1, J4. R0, P0. So there is no way for an eUp to clear at the airport at T<24 under temporarily normal circumstances thanks to Amadeus. I have a B fare. SE desk say, P=0 so no upgrade. If that were true, nobody could ever upgrade after check-in opens. Why can they not understand to upgrade at less than T-24 all you need is credits, priority, and J positive? (In this case, there is only one person on the waitlist according to the app, so I should be able to have the SE desk push through an upgrade. Edit: unless somebody tells me that once gate upgrades are processed they actually open P or R space in order to make that happen, meaning if J12 they would move to from R0 or P0 to R12 or P12 in order for the system to automatically process the upgrade list.) Bah. Rookie agents = humbug.
Last edited by ridefar; Dec 18, 2019 at 2:14 pm
#205
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The lack of understanding on this even at the SE desk is mind boggling. Situation: T<24. B1, J4. R0, P0. So there is no way for an eUp to clear at the airport at T<24 under temporarily normal circumstances thanks to Amadeus. I have a B fare. SE desk say, P=0 so no upgrade. If that were true, nobody could ever upgrade after check-in opens. Why can they not understand to upgrade at less than T-24 all you need is credits, priority, and J positive? (In this case, there is only one person on the waitlist according to the app, so I should be able to have the SE desk push through an upgrade. Edit: unless somebody tells me that once gate upgrades are processed they actually open P or R space in order to make that happen, meaning if J12 they would move to from R0 or P0 to R12 or P12 in order for the system to automatically process the upgrade list.) Bah. Rookie agents = humbug.
At the GATE, you need positive space.
Before that, you need the appropriate fare class. Positive space is not sufficient 2 hours out. They still want to sell seats day of departure.
#206
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YYC
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If that is true how does concierge do upgrade when T<24, R=0 and J>0? Because I think that is exactly what is happening under Amadeus until they get the “real” (identical to RESIII) gate upgrade figured out. I understand exactly what you are saying and I think you are right in normal circumstances. I am just complaining because until Amadeus is normalized I am not able to leverage the situation the way I think I should be able to (and others are when concierge does special eUp processing for SE only at T-24 or less). Yes I am spoiled.
#207
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The concierges have told me their special ability is just adding you to the list, after which it will be processed normally.
There's no issue getting an upgrade once you're on the list. There's just an issue getting on the list.
If you're within 24 hours, email the concierge, and they'll add you to the list. It will be processed at the gate.
There's no issue getting an upgrade once you're on the list. There's just an issue getting on the list.
If you're within 24 hours, email the concierge, and they'll add you to the list. It will be processed at the gate.
#208
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YYC
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The concierges have told me their special ability is just adding you to the list, after which it will be processed normally.
There's no issue getting an upgrade once you're on the list. There's just an issue getting on the list.
If you're within 24 hours, email the concierge, and they'll add you to the list. It will be processed at the gate.
There's no issue getting an upgrade once you're on the list. There's just an issue getting on the list.
If you're within 24 hours, email the concierge, and they'll add you to the list. It will be processed at the gate.
#209
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I don't know what they're supposed to be doing these days, I only know what I've been told, and what I've witnessed. But I don't like a lot of what I'm reading about them doing, as it often results in the wrong people being upgraded.
#210
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE 1MM, Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 3,397
Concierges (and most/all agents) can also rebook you from K to J 300 days before departure, but it's not how things were meant to work
I don't know what they're supposed to be doing these days, I only know what I've been told, and what I've witnessed. But I don't like a lot of what I'm reading about them doing, as it often results in the wrong people being upgraded.
I don't know what they're supposed to be doing these days, I only know what I've been told, and what I've witnessed. But I don't like a lot of what I'm reading about them doing, as it often results in the wrong people being upgraded.
Do you know if the list in the app even accurately reflects the real upgrade list any more?