AC 33 change; appears to no longer start in YYZ
Sep 29, 2019, 3:22 pm
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AC has a new reservation system coming online in the fall. One of the things with the new system (at least to start) is that there will be no "thru" flights to make the system more easy to use, at least to start. You will see a big reduction in "thru-flights" in the interim, with them instead just having different flight numbers to make things easier for the system and agents.
Sep 30, 2019, 7:52 am
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I looked for next january as an example and YYZ-YUL-GVA has been separated in 2 flights, AC422 for YYZ-YUL and then AC834 YUL-GVA, same plane and schedule as if you were to fly it tomorrow with one flight number.
Sep 30, 2019, 9:58 am
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They had already done the same for the BRU flights a couple of years ago. Only real difference is spinwise. For once, they gave up on the spin side, I would say, a good thing. "Direct" flights with a stopover is BS, not bad that they recognize it.
Sep 30, 2019, 12:25 pm
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Smart move IMO. The bulk of the load is obviously YUL-GVA and a line break from the through operation will bode well for OTP on that sector, where there are several immediate connection GVA-BEY on ME. It will also address the checked baggage issue, where many (despite announcements) assume that the bags are checked through to YYZ on the inbound sector of 835.
Sep 30, 2019, 12:32 pm
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Was 33/34 a legacy Air Canada number or did it come from Canadian Pacific? I used to fly fly HNL-YVR in the 90s and early 2000s on CP and then on Air Canada and I'm pretty sure AC33/34 were the numbers for that segment.
Sep 30, 2019, 12:45 pm
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200's Europe
300's Hawaii/South Pacific (then 100's as CP127 operated YYZ-HNL)
400's/500's South America
I recall flying on CP301 YVR-HNL-NAN-SYD
Feel free to jump in. Just going by memory.
CP Also had a long history of scissor hubs where multiple aircraft would converge upon a "mini-hub" with one aircraft continuing the segment(s):
HNL-1 Aircraft continuing on to NAN-SYD and later just SYD
LIM -1 Aircraft continuing on to SCL-EZE
AMS- Aircraft continuing on to MXP/FCO/LIS/ATH/TLV
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Sep 30, 2019, 3:21 pm
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My itinerary change this morning was for exactly what ACYYZ/SD and WestAust mentioned upthread, AC 834 (YYZ-YUL-GVA). I was only doing the YYZ-YUL portion anyway, but it has now become AC 422. Just waiting to see if the return, AC 835, also has a similar change. I purposely chose the AC 834/835 combination of flights since there are 27 J seats and if a LMU is offered, I could enjoy the pods for an hour and a half. 
Sep 30, 2019, 5:53 pm
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My itinerary change this morning was for exactly what ACYYZ/SD and WestAust mentioned upthread, AC 834 (YYZ-YUL-GVA). I was only doing the YYZ-YUL portion anyway, but it has now become AC 422. Just waiting to see if the return, AC 835, also has a similar change. I purposely chose the AC 834/835 combination of flights since there are 27 J seats and if a LMU is offered, I could enjoy the pods for an hour and a half.
Last edited by ACYYZ/SD; Sep 30, 2019 at 7:39 pm
Sep 30, 2019, 7:32 pm
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CP32/35 were similar routes, the differences being days of the week flown and either going YYZ-HNL non stop, or with a stop in YVR.
CP 22/23 were similar routings, but to SYD instead of AKL.
Sep 30, 2019, 8:36 pm
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I have a booking on AC9 for next summer, and the flight from YYZ to YYC still shows as AC9, same as the flight from YYC to NRT. I guess they'll get around to changing that one too. It also still shows as being operated by the 763, which might end up being my final ride on one of those.
Sep 30, 2019, 9:46 pm
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