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Likelihood to get upgraded to J with Flex fare YVR -> PER?

Likelihood to get upgraded to J with Flex fare YVR -> PER?

Old Aug 19, 19, 5:36 pm
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Likelihood to get upgraded to J with Flex fare YVR -> PER?

First time heading to Australia (PER) and only have 38 e-upgrade points left. SE100K member, traveling on Sept 5 from YVR. Right now there are 15J empty seats (no PE seats) for the flight through Sydney and 10J empty seats and 8PE empty seats for the flight through Brisbane. For those who travel this route often, is the chance for e-upgrade from Flex (lowest) to J good? I can spend $500 to buy PE ticket for the Sept 5 leg, would that be smarter or a waste of money? Thanks!
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Old Aug 19, 19, 5:59 pm
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I don't know how you're counting the 15/10, but I don't think it's accurate.

AC seems more confident in their ability to sell the BNE seats, but it's pretty early to offer advice given that they're both P0.

PY will definitely put you much higher on the upgrade list, and it's a decent fallback if your upgrade doesn't clear. I would never personally waitlist from Flex on an intercontinental flight. Either I can confirm the upgrade at booking, or I'm buying PY.
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Old Aug 19, 19, 6:05 pm
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Thanks for the advice! I guess it is too optimistic thinking that I may get upgraded with Flex lol. To check number of empty seats, I count how many J class seats are empty on Air Canada website. What's a more accurate way to find out how many empty seats there are?
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Old Aug 19, 19, 6:07 pm
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Originally Posted by ctarolf View Post
What's a more accurate way to find out how many empty seats there are?
Find someone who works for AC.

The only thing you can do is use a tool like EF to see what they're willing to sell, but you'll never get a number greater than 9, and even that isn't necessarily accurate.
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Old Aug 19, 19, 6:29 pm
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Originally Posted by ctarolf View Post
..... To check number of empty seats, I count how many J class seats are empty on Air Canada website. What's a more accurate way to find out how many empty seats there are?
Seats allocated is not seats sold. Not every one will pick a specific seat allocation.

People flying for business/work (other peoples money) will often not book/confirm reservations until a few days before. So the load in J can change in a short time.

BNE/SYD to PER in J or economy? With VA?
Does the schedule (departure - arrival time) make a difference?
International to domestic transfer is easier at MEL, then BNE and last SYD

At times from USA/Canada to Perth via Asia can be be a better option. Or via AKL (New Zealand)

http://www.gcmap.com/mapui?P=YVR-BNE...R&MS=wls&DU=mi


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Old Aug 19, 19, 7:47 pm
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Apparently one of those scam sites is linked to by our corporate Egencia.

$50 for the same ETA - sheesh! I luckily set a co-worker down the right path.
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Old Aug 20, 19, 12:01 am
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Seats allocated is not seats sold. Not every one will pick a specific seat allocation.

People flying for business/work (other peoples money) will often not book/confirm reservations until a few days before. So the load in J can change in a short time.


BNE/SYD to PER in J or economy? With VA?
J with VA to be booked with AC website - still need more AQD for 2019.

Does the schedule (departure - arrival time) make a difference?
Not really. I need to get to PER by Sept 7.

International to domestic transfer is easier at MEL, then BNE and last SYD
Oh that's really good to know. Options I see are only with transfers at BNE/SYD

At times from USA/Canada to Perth via Asia can be be a better option. Or via AKL (New Zealand)
I tried to go through TPE when I can - I have family there and J usually with good price. However, I will need to book TPE to PER separately as I can't book it via AC website (i.e. can't book YVR -> TPE; TPE->PER; PER->TPE, TPE ->YVR on line). I find AC website quite limited when you want to have multi-stops in cities AC doesn't operate (i.e. TPE to PER). Do you call to book those flights? How do I find prices before I call so it doesn't take forever and in my experience, way more expensive than if I book the TPE - PER on my own?
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Old Aug 20, 19, 12:48 am
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Originally Posted by ctarolf View Post
Not really. I need to get to PER by Sept 7.


Oh that's really good to know. Options I see are only with transfers at BNE/SYD
By time I meant the actual time of day for departure/arrivals.

I happily spend good money to avoid Inter <---> dom transfer at SYD

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Old Aug 20, 19, 7:35 am
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Consider the connection via Asia idea. I have friends who live in Perth and they told me it’s the way to go and what Perth residents do. I did it via Sydney but used the Sydney bit as a stop and took a few cays to deal with jet lag. Agree with all comments above about Sydney and Melbourne. Have never done Brisbane.
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Old Aug 20, 19, 9:12 am
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Originally Posted by Bohemian1 View Post
Apparently one of those scam sites is linked to by our corporate Egencia.

$50 for the same ETA - sheesh! I luckily set a co-worker down the right path.
Any travel agent with GDS access can get you this ETA for free.
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Old Aug 20, 19, 11:30 am
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Originally Posted by keitherson View Post
Any travel agent with GDS access can get you this ETA for free.
What is GDS?
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Old Aug 20, 19, 11:31 am
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By time I meant the actual time of day for departure/arrivals.
Yeah I don't mind the time of day for departure/arrivals, as long as I'm Perth before Sept 8.

I happily spend good money to avoid Inter <---> dom transfer at SYD
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Old Aug 20, 19, 12:34 pm
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What is GDS?
The reservation system
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Global...ibution_system

While the most famous GDS systems globally are Amadeus, Sabre and Travelport (Galileo, Worldspan and Apollo) there are other smaller regional GDS systems in specific markets. For. e.g. Travelsky is a state owned company in China, and KIU System is a PSS and GDS used in Latin America,
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