AC Drops Domestic flight @ Canadian Customs
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I don' t think CBSA has any authority over Canadian citizens on domestic flights, not does anybody who works for the airport ( who isn' t a police officer ) have the authority to stop you once you' ve exited the plane. If anything the airline would be fined. I could be wrong, but I wonder what would happen if a Canadian citizen just kept walking and refused to answer questions or produce i.d., since they never left the country in the first place.
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it’s remarkable such statements are made with NO factual basis or evidence in support. Without getting too far off the thread In 2016 Parliament amended various statutes to create something called “Customs Controlled Area”.
https://www.cbsa-asfc.gc.ca/publicat...f5156-eng.html
while threshold for inspection for anyone domestic who is present in CCA. Including both passengers and ground staff, is much higher than arriving foreign travelers, Parliament allowed the authority necessary to intervene in this situation.
In practice, this inadvertent mixing happens routinely, including to me at YUL couple years ago and CBSA just asks where you came from and waive you through.
btw...AC was heavily involved in lobbying for the CCA change as it has facilitated simpler airport processing -I will say no more as getting really off topic to explain these details.
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Swing gates often involve a right turn here, a left turn there, and maybe an escalator or two thrown in for good measure. I suspect only travellers with the most intimate familiarity of a particular gate would immediately know if they’re being led the wrong way; generally, people just follow the crowd and / or the directions of airport / airline staff.
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If this happened on one of our flights, we'd mostly be disappointed at the lack of MLL / Priority Pass access on arrival.
AC, on the other hand, would save $$ on edamame, coke zero, and the fabled ice cream bars.
AC, on the other hand, would save $$ on edamame, coke zero, and the fabled ice cream bars.
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The part of this whole mess that bothers me, isn't what CBSA can or can't do, but if I was planning on making a quick connection off of that inbound domestic flight, and AC incorrectly caused me to go out through a line at customs and then back in through security, I'd be pretty upset if I missed that connection as a result.
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You're welcome to try turning up at a Canadian port of entry, trying to walk through and refusing to answer any questions, but I personally don't enjoy being forcibly detained and quite likely beaten/injured in the process. Many of us here have not forgotten the man who unfortunately lost his life at YVR in 2007 after getting frustrated/agitated with CBSA.
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The part of this whole mess that bothers me, isn't what CBSA can or can't do, but if I was planning on making a quick connection off of that inbound domestic flight, and AC incorrectly caused me to go out through a line at customs and then back in through security, I'd be pretty upset if I missed that connection as a result.
while this topic comes up few times a year, good reminder that if I get off flight and see I’m heading to CBSA, hopefully I’ll remember to go back to gate and complain.
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Once domestic pax are co-mingled with Intl there is obviously a problem and seems customs should have authority to be used very judiciously. Not the passengers fault but letting the pax out would mean integrity over the area and goods within the area would be lost.
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Well, the easy fix is to simply allow law enforcement the power to detained, question and search anyone they want to, at anytime. They should be able to stop you if you look suspicious, are acting suspicious, or about to do something suspicious or thinking of doing something suspicious. To speed things up we should carry "papers" with us all the time that include who we are, our fingerprint, picture, family history, what we do, where we do what we do and when we do what we do.
Not sure if this has been tried anywhere before, but to me, it solves so many problems!
Not sure if this has been tried anywhere before, but to me, it solves so many problems!