Am I being spiteful to AC by not cancelling non-refundable ticket?
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You definitely don't want to just no-show the flight. You want to cancel it so you can reuse the value. However, there are things that can happen that will let you get a full refund before then.
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Economy basic is "No flight changes, no cancellations" and "No refund after 24 hours, no credit for future travel".
Economy standard is one step up from economy basic. Standard is "Change or cancel your flight for a fee" and "No refund after 24 hours, get a credit for future travel".
My SO and I have one of each coming up on same flights and when I phoned to have PNRs linked, agent was very concerned and said she would never recommend a basic fare. I did it because there was only one basic fare left.
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No, they are quite different.
Economy basic is "No flight changes, no cancellations" and "No refund after 24 hours, no credit for future travel".
Economy standard is one step up from economy basic. Standard is "Change or cancel your flight for a fee" and "No refund after 24 hours, get a credit for future travel".
Economy basic is "No flight changes, no cancellations" and "No refund after 24 hours, no credit for future travel".
Economy standard is one step up from economy basic. Standard is "Change or cancel your flight for a fee" and "No refund after 24 hours, get a credit for future travel".
In all seriousness, for all the warning labels and tactics the airlines have done to make Basic Economy unattractive, it's not that bad.
Safe Travels,
James
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It's "not that bad" if you know you will not need to make changes to the flight or are booking fares so cheap that it's no big deal to throw them away. Even for leisure travel, the number of times where I have that level of certainty are virtually non-existent, unless it's literally the night before the flight, at which point there's usually only M+ fares available. Maybe okay on Rapidair-type routes if you book an evening flight and give yourself flexibility to standby for an earlier flight. (I think you can standby for an earlier Rapidair flight on a Basic fare, but I haven't tried it)
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The warning labels and tactics to make BE seem unattractive as well as the very real service limitations are simply ways "not to punish the poor, but to scare the rich" into paying for a higher class of travel.
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For the posters wanting to debate the larger pros and cons of Basic Economy, please do so in this thread on that topic but as this thread is about OP cancelling this ticket please try to focus the discussion to that matter.
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Thanks for the responses. I did say "non-refundable" but should have said "economy standard" which is basic economy.
Some are saying I could have got taxes refunded. That is interesting.
Even if it was a changeable flight, I'm not sure spending $400 to change two $500 tickets to a date/location that we probably won't want or be able to use is a good investment.
When booking for personal travel, I have saved a lot of money over the years booking these classes of fares. Knowing full well that I am taking a risk of losing the entire ticket amount. This is the first time that has happened; I am still ahead.
Some are saying I could have got taxes refunded. That is interesting.
Even if it was a changeable flight, I'm not sure spending $400 to change two $500 tickets to a date/location that we probably won't want or be able to use is a good investment.
When booking for personal travel, I have saved a lot of money over the years booking these classes of fares. Knowing full well that I am taking a risk of losing the entire ticket amount. This is the first time that has happened; I am still ahead.
Seriously?
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With that being said, OP maybe should have looked into more flexible travel products for their needs. For instance, a flight pass would have allowed OP to defer his booking decision for weeks perhaps even hours before departure. In my previous life, one of my responsibilities was travel manager for my organization and used that benefit countless times. In one instance, I booked an employee's flight back to YYZ (from SFO) 2 hours before the flight was scheduled to book online. Sometimes, the flight pass can also be the cheapest option for booking flights as well. For instance, last year AC had a flight pass that allowed you to book 4 one-ways across Canada/US Northeast for $587.60 CAD all-in. These tickets could only be booked for travel from Friday to Sunday and you had to book at least 2 weeks in advance (still better lead time than had I booked through an OTA). I ended up using it on the following flights: 2 x YXU > EWR, YXU > YSJ, YSJ > EWR. I challenge anyone to find a fare with any airline where those one-way tickets are less than $587 CAD! Aeroplan, would be the other travel product to use, and depending on route may even provide you with last minute booking options as well. In addition, the cancellation fees on Aeroplan tickets aren't too bad.
I myself make use of multiple travel products, in addition to the non-refundable Basic Economy ticket I purchase to build in the flexibility I need. Perhaps OP can use this as a learning lesson to think beyond the fare presented to them.
Safe Travels,
James
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