Air Canada Attendants Urge Strict Evacuation Rules
May 16, 2019, 9:04 am
#16
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You can only do so much as humans we are flawed and during emergencies, many folks have no idea what to do. We have people on planes with shorts and flip flops or are drunk/high which can be an issue during an emergency. On Monday I flew YUL-YYC and I had this elderly non-English speaking couple sitting with me in the emergency exit 18EF. The elderly woman who I think may have gone to school with Jesus, had the young F/A put her fancy walker /cane in the overhead bin. This was not the same F/A who had to assist this elderly woman using her walker/cane walk all the way to her seat, and I mean Zone 1 & 2 were boarded and they stopped zone 3 so she can be walked to her seat. I stood there and said to the F/A "really" and she ignored me. The gentleman who's English was understandable asked if I wanted the window seat and I said no thank you, I like to have the flexibility to survive if there is an emergency, some of the folks who herd me laughed. This may be 80-pound woman struggled to open a can of Pringles and that window next to her is thirty pounds!
There is no perfect system and unfortunately, lives may be lost as well as serious injury can occur in emergencies. A lot of things can be done to mitigate human loss and injury, but we fail to ensure many of these safeguards are put in placed or executed to prevent or lessen tragedies.
There is no perfect system and unfortunately, lives may be lost as well as serious injury can occur in emergencies. A lot of things can be done to mitigate human loss and injury, but we fail to ensure many of these safeguards are put in placed or executed to prevent or lessen tragedies.
May 16, 2019, 9:06 am
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Doesn't AC or Canada have rules saying that handicapped individuals cannot sit in emergency exit row seats?
May 16, 2019, 9:21 am
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"free from any disability, condition or responsibilities (such as attending to another person) that may prevent you from performing the functions required to open an emergency exit"
The real question is:
Doesn't AC or Canada enforce rules saying that handicapped individuals cannot sit in emergency exit row seats?
May 16, 2019, 9:30 am
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Yes:
"free from any disability, condition or responsibilities (such as attending to another person) that may prevent you from performing the functions required to open an emergency exit"
The real question is:
Doesn't AC or Canada enforce rules saying that handicapped individuals cannot sit in emergency exit row seats?
"free from any disability, condition or responsibilities (such as attending to another person) that may prevent you from performing the functions required to open an emergency exit"
The real question is:
Doesn't AC or Canada enforce rules saying that handicapped individuals cannot sit in emergency exit row seats?
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May 16, 2019, 9:30 am
#20
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Yes they do. I have seem people made to change seat because they are handicapped in some way. Also, I have seen people removed from the extra row because they couldn’t speak English or French well enough.
May 16, 2019, 9:38 am
#21
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Saw that on WestJet too (although they spoke English somewhat they were being uncooperative and had to be warned about potential removal from the flight if (a) couldn't confirm verbally that they understood the emergency exist instructions, or (b) would move to another seat.)
May 16, 2019, 11:20 am
#22
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You can only do so much as humans we are flawed and during emergencies, many folks have no idea what to do. We have people on planes with shorts and flip flops or are drunk/high which can be an issue during an emergency. On Monday I flew YUL-YYC and I had this elderly non-English speaking couple sitting with me in the emergency exit 18EF. The elderly woman who I think may have gone to school with Jesus, had the young F/A put her fancy walker /cane in the overhead bin. This was not the same F/A who had to assist this elderly woman using her walker/cane walk all the way to her seat, and I mean Zone 1 & 2 were boarded and they stopped zone 3 so she can be walked to her seat. I stood there and said to the F/A "really" and she ignored me. The gentleman who's English was understandable asked if I wanted the window seat and I said no thank you, I like to have the flexibility to survive if there is an emergency, some of the folks who herd me laughed. This may be 80-pound woman struggled to open a can of Pringles and that window next to her is thirty pounds!
There is no perfect system and unfortunately, lives may be lost as well as serious injury can occur in emergencies. A lot of things can be done to mitigate human loss and injury, but we fail to ensure many of these safeguards are put in placed or executed to prevent or lessen tragedies.
There is no perfect system and unfortunately, lives may be lost as well as serious injury can occur in emergencies. A lot of things can be done to mitigate human loss and injury, but we fail to ensure many of these safeguards are put in placed or executed to prevent or lessen tragedies.