YYZ Airside Bus
May 15, 2019, 5:18 am
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YYZ Airside Bus
Last couple of YYZ-YYG trips have all involved a bus out to the tarmac at YYZ. Is this AC’s latest cost-cutting strategy - protect Calin’s Bonus by being too cheap to pay for a gate? Since there are gates available as I await my bus, I have to ask why we’re increasingly being given the FRA treatment.
May 15, 2019, 5:26 am
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Those 'free' gates could be allocated already, though.
Could this be related to thr increase in Rouge routes? A bunch of routes that previously used the D1-12 "gates" now need actual gates as a result.
Could this be related to thr increase in Rouge routes? A bunch of routes that previously used the D1-12 "gates" now need actual gates as a result.
May 15, 2019, 6:05 am
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Last couple of YYZ-YYG trips have all involved a bus out to the tarmac at YYZ. Is this AC’s latest cost-cutting strategy - protect Calin’s Bonus by being too cheap to pay for a gate? Since there are gates available as I await my bus, I have to ask why we’re increasingly being given the FRA treatment.
YVR has an expansion of international gate area (and yes it includes a small forest in a weird glassed in area). I think they may also be getting ready to build a new pier for trans-boarder as an expansion.
YYZ has renderings for some complex and expesnsive expansion that involves removing and replacing existing roads and buildings. Some day they may have money to stat the project. Until then we should all be buying stock in airport buss companies.
May 15, 2019, 6:18 am
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LOL ... another late departure too, by the looks of it. Supposed to have departed now and still haven’t even boarded the bus. 14 segments on AC so far this year, and only four on-time departures.
AC ... Always Chaotic
May 15, 2019, 11:28 am
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I actually thought the opposite - by reducing frequency on some routes and consolidating pax onto larger rouge aircraft, that should free up some gate space. Evidently not.
LOL ... another late departure too, by the looks of it. Supposed to have departed now and still haven’t even boarded the bus. 14 segments on AC so far this year, and only four on-time departures.
AC ... Always Chaotic
LOL ... another late departure too, by the looks of it. Supposed to have departed now and still haven’t even boarded the bus. 14 segments on AC so far this year, and only four on-time departures.
AC ... Always Chaotic
Is FRA known for buses? I've never had a bus there, not that I go through there much. And I'd rather have a bus in some cases vs a 45 minute taxi - though mainly for deplaning rather than boarding.
I assume turn-around time has an impact. If the plan is to get to the gate, deplane and re-board in 20 minutes (clearly I'm not talking about AC here but other airlines can board a plane in narrow body 20 minutes) a gate makes more sense vs if the outbound flight is not due to even board for 4-5 hours having it take up a gate may not be practical.
May 15, 2019, 11:36 am
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May 15, 2019, 11:59 am
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COBUS 3000 I could not remember the name of those buses. Yup FRA, MUC, LIS most of European airports are remote gates with bus access.
I see the expansion at YVR and I agree that YVR needs a larger transborder pier, especially for the smaller planes as that is a long walk of shame going down to those few gates
I see the expansion at YVR and I agree that YVR needs a larger transborder pier, especially for the smaller planes as that is a long walk of shame going down to those few gates
May 15, 2019, 12:10 pm
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While I detest bus gates, which often negate the advantages (yes, to me) of zoned boarding and being amongst the first off the plane, there was one little thing I saw in SEA last week that I liked.
They had giant monitors on the side of the buses with the flight number and destination on them. I'm guessing this cuts down on confusion when multiple buses pull up for boarding.
They had giant monitors on the side of the buses with the flight number and destination on them. I'm guessing this cuts down on confusion when multiple buses pull up for boarding.
May 15, 2019, 12:26 pm
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May 15, 2019, 1:47 pm
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Zoned boarding does take a hit ... you’re first on the bus ... and last off the bus. At least I got bus no. 1, which is, I suppose, some sort of acknowledgement of my DYKWIA Joe Kickass status n’ stuff.
May 15, 2019, 3:25 pm
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LX at ZRH and GVA as well as SU in SVO (as two examples I have flown recently) do the bus position arrival well for those in J. Separate bus that departs as soon as the J passengers are loaded.
May 15, 2019, 3:26 pm
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At least FRA knows how to do busses efficiently. I can only imagine how AC & YYZ handle it *shudder*
Last edited by RatherBeInYOW; May 15, 2019 at 3:50 pm
