YYZ Airside Bus
Last couple of YYZ-YYG trips have all involved a bus out to the tarmac at YYZ. Is this AC’s latest cost-cutting strategy - protect Calin’s Bonus by being too cheap to pay for a gate? Since there are gates available as I await my bus, I have to ask why we’re increasingly being given the FRA treatment. |
Those 'free' gates could be allocated already, though.
Could this be related to thr increase in Rouge routes? A bunch of routes that previously used the D1-12 "gates" now need actual gates as a result. |
Originally Posted by Symmetre
(Post 31103236)
Last couple of YYZ-YYG trips have all involved a bus out to the tarmac at YYZ. Is this AC’s latest cost-cutting strategy - protect Calin’s Bonus by being too cheap to pay for a gate? Since there are gates available as I await my bus, I have to ask why we’re increasingly being given the FRA treatment. YVR has an expansion of international gate area (and yes it includes a small forest in a weird glassed in area). I think they may also be getting ready to build a new pier for trans-boarder as an expansion. YYZ has renderings for some complex and expesnsive expansion that involves removing and replacing existing roads and buildings. Some day they may have money to stat the project. Until then we should all be buying stock in airport buss companies. |
Originally Posted by D404
(Post 31103261)
A bunch of routes that previously used the D1-12 "gates" now need actual gates as a result.
LOL ... another late departure too, by the looks of it. Supposed to have departed now and still haven’t even boarded the bus. 14 segments on AC so far this year, and only four on-time departures. AC ... Always Chaotic |
Originally Posted by Symmetre
(Post 31103381)
I actually thought the opposite - by reducing frequency on some routes and consolidating pax onto larger rouge aircraft, that should free up some gate space. Evidently not.
LOL ... another late departure too, by the looks of it. Supposed to have departed now and still haven’t even boarded the bus. 14 segments on AC so far this year, and only four on-time departures. AC ... Always Chaotic Is FRA known for buses? I've never had a bus there, not that I go through there much. And I'd rather have a bus in some cases vs a 45 minute taxi - though mainly for deplaning rather than boarding. I assume turn-around time has an impact. If the plan is to get to the gate, deplane and re-board in 20 minutes (clearly I'm not talking about AC here but other airlines can board a plane in narrow body 20 minutes) a gate makes more sense vs if the outbound flight is not due to even board for 4-5 hours having it take up a gate may not be practical. |
Originally Posted by jc94
(Post 31104421)
How many of your 14 segments arrived on time?
Is FRA known for buses? I've never had a bus there, not that I go through there much. COBUS 3000 is king at FRA and princes at many other European airports. |
COBUS 3000 I could not remember the name of those buses. Yup FRA, MUC, LIS most of European airports are remote gates with bus access.
I see the expansion at YVR and I agree that YVR needs a larger transborder pier, especially for the smaller planes as that is a long walk of shame going down to those few gates |
While I detest bus gates, which often negate the advantages (yes, to me) of zoned boarding and being amongst the first off the plane, there was one little thing I saw in SEA last week that I liked.
They had giant monitors on the side of the buses with the flight number and destination on them. I'm guessing this cuts down on confusion when multiple buses pull up for boarding. |
Originally Posted by Bohemian1
(Post 31104591)
They had giant monitors on the side of the buses with the flight number and destination on them. I'm guessing this cuts down on confusion when multiple buses pull up for boarding.
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Zoned boarding does take a hit ... you’re first on the bus ... and last off the bus. At least I got bus no. 1, which is, I suppose, some sort of acknowledgement of my DYKWIA Joe Kickass status n’ stuff. |
Originally Posted by Symmetre
(Post 31104944)
Joe Kickass |
LX at ZRH and GVA as well as SU in SVO (as two examples I have flown recently) do the bus position arrival well for those in J. Separate bus that departs as soon as the J passengers are loaded.
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Originally Posted by yyznomad
(Post 31104462)
Yes, for a majority of Schengen and other Euro non-Schengen flights.
COBUS 3000 is king at FRA and princes at many other European airports. At least FRA knows how to do busses efficiently. I can only imagine how AC & YYZ handle it *shudder* |
You don’t want to know! |
For one, YYZ's busses don't seem to have any air con. Either that or they don't turn it on.
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