Downgraded from Premium Rouge
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#17
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Contacted AC on twitter, they gave me a link to use to contact AC customer service. Sent them a message on Saturday, got directly a confirmation that they received my message - radio silence since then. How fast is AC usually in responding to comments/complaints?
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Not fast at all. Up to 30 days - especially with the MAX groundings...I suspect they're quite busy.
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The 14 day rule concerns schedule changes not downgrades.
I assume that you purchased a through fare, with the downgraded segment on the same fare component as the flight(s) departing from the EU. Given this, I think there's a chance that EC261 would apply. Start by looking at the big authoritative EC261 thread in the BA forum which contains an incredible amount of helpful detailed information. Of course, this would be a fight and might not be worth it given how the downgraded segment represents a small fraction of your total miles (which is the basis for calculating downgrade compensation).
I assume that you purchased a through fare, with the downgraded segment on the same fare component as the flight(s) departing from the EU. Given this, I think there's a chance that EC261 would apply. Start by looking at the big authoritative EC261 thread in the BA forum which contains an incredible amount of helpful detailed information. Of course, this would be a fight and might not be worth it given how the downgraded segment represents a small fraction of your total miles (which is the basis for calculating downgrade compensation).
#21
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Got a 20 % discount on my next AC trip, as guessed earlier in this thread.
Quite an apology by AC:
"Thank you for contacting us. We know how important it is to get to your destination on time and we’re sorry your trip was affected by the grounding of the 737 Max."
One 321 was replaced with another - with no J - and I have not traveled yet. I guess it was too much to expect AC's customer service to read my message...
Quite an apology by AC:
"Thank you for contacting us. We know how important it is to get to your destination on time and we’re sorry your trip was affected by the grounding of the 737 Max."
One 321 was replaced with another - with no J - and I have not traveled yet. I guess it was too much to expect AC's customer service to read my message...
#22
Join Date: Oct 2012
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...Heck, I got a 20% promo code last week for having a YWG-YYC mainline flight swapped to Rouge, they gave one to every passenger. I think you are due at least that much. But there are no other routing options available, so I think you have to just ensure you get compensated.
From AC's website in the 737 Max area:
- As the Rouge cabin is not equipped with individual in-flight entertainment screens, Economy Class customers will be offered a promotion code* for 15% off a future booking (issued within 30 days of travel).
#23
Join Date: Nov 2017
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Got a 20 % discount on my next AC trip, as guessed earlier in this thread.
Quite an apology by AC:
"Thank you for contacting us. We know how important it is to get to your destination on time and we’re sorry your trip was affected by the grounding of the 737 Max."
One 321 was replaced with another - with no J - and I have not traveled yet. I guess it was too much to expect AC's customer service to read my message...
Quite an apology by AC:
"Thank you for contacting us. We know how important it is to get to your destination on time and we’re sorry your trip was affected by the grounding of the 737 Max."
One 321 was replaced with another - with no J - and I have not traveled yet. I guess it was too much to expect AC's customer service to read my message...
Safe Travels,
James
#24
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I was just looking at one of my reservations, and looks like I've also been hit by a change to a single cabin rouge A321 and a downgrade. Had a reward flight booked YUL-YYT that was originally an AC Express E175, moved to a rouge 319, and now moved to a single cabin rouge A321 and downgraded to economy. It's on a UA issued reward ticket, so unfortunately this may be a hassle to try to get resolved.
#25
Join Date: Nov 2017
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I was just looking at one of my reservations, and looks like I've also been hit by a change to a single cabin rouge A321 and a downgrade. Had a reward flight booked YUL-YYT that was originally an AC Express E175, moved to a rouge 319, and now moved to a single cabin rouge A321 and downgraded to economy. It's on a UA issued reward ticket, so unfortunately this may be a hassle to try to get resolved.
My recommendation would be checking to see what's available now in that routing, then calling up UA and explain the situation. I would be shocked if they charged a change fee given it was AC that altered the ticket causing the issue in the first place. What might be an issue is whether AC will open up award availability to re-accomodate you another flight with J service if no such award availability exists. In that case, I would then three-way AC and UA and have them work together to get this sorted.
Safe Travels,
James
#26
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IME it shouldn't be. UA and AC share a very close relationship. For instance, last year I was originally flying SIN > LAX > SFO > YYZ on UA with SFO > YYZ being operated by AC. As we all know UA dropped SIN > LAX and when I called in, the agent didn't bat an eye to rebooking the SFO > YYZ on AC at a time that worked for me. Similarly I've had a CPU upgraded flight (ORD > YYZ) go into IRROPS and UA ended up rebooking me into J on AC at a time that worked for me.
My recommendation would be checking to see what's available now in that routing, then calling up UA and explain the situation. I would be shocked if they charged a change fee given it was AC that altered the ticket causing the issue in the first place. What might be an issue is whether AC will open up award availability to re-accomodate you another flight with J service if no such award availability exists. In that case, I would then three-way AC and UA and have them work together to get this sorted.
Safe Travels,
James
My recommendation would be checking to see what's available now in that routing, then calling up UA and explain the situation. I would be shocked if they charged a change fee given it was AC that altered the ticket causing the issue in the first place. What might be an issue is whether AC will open up award availability to re-accomodate you another flight with J service if no such award availability exists. In that case, I would then three-way AC and UA and have them work together to get this sorted.
Safe Travels,
James
#27
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How did they give them out? Did they give out physical cards on the flight, or was it via e-mail afterwards? And did they give them out to Premium Rouge as well as rouge economy minus? The FAQ's on the website say that if rouge is subbed for mainline that they'll give economy pax a discount code, but doesn't mention Premium Rouge pax. I've got 2 flights coming up that have been subbed from mainline to rouge, so am considering my options.
From AC's website in the 737 Max area:
From AC's website in the 737 Max area:
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They gave everyone a card at boarding, and you entered your reservation info to the website to obtain your promo code. I was in Premium Rouge, so maybe that's why I got 20%, but I remember hearing people going back to Economy Minus talking about a 20% code, so it seems that's what the CSA's were telling people.