Question: Aeroplan: one way to Europe 1 with CAI layover
May 7, 2019, 9:36 am
#1
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Aeroplan: one way to Europe 1 with CAI layover
Hi, trying to book a one-way trip YYZ to Europe 1 and maximize it with three consecutive layovers (<24h):
YYZ-IST (layover in IST)
IST-CAI (layover in CAI)
CAI-ATH (layover in ATH)
ATH-FCO.
YYZ-FCO's MPM (7500+) would allow such routing (less than 7300). Wonder anyone has done anything similar? Would have to call Aeroplan to book, not sure whether it would violate any of their routing rules considering it crosses into North Africa at one point.
I can end up anywhere in Europe 1, the destination does not have to be FCO. But it seems no other places would provide the required MPM (checked Switzerland and Austria already).
YYZ-IST (layover in IST)
IST-CAI (layover in CAI)
CAI-ATH (layover in ATH)
ATH-FCO.
YYZ-FCO's MPM (7500+) would allow such routing (less than 7300). Wonder anyone has done anything similar? Would have to call Aeroplan to book, not sure whether it would violate any of their routing rules considering it crosses into North Africa at one point.
I can end up anywhere in Europe 1, the destination does not have to be FCO. But it seems no other places would provide the required MPM (checked Switzerland and Austria already).
May 7, 2019, 9:48 am
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May 7, 2019, 10:17 am
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I have done YOW-YYZ-IST-NCE as a Europe 1 redemption, but I am not sure how that would be affected by adding the CAI layover in there.
Please report back and let us know how it goes.
Please report back and let us know how it goes.
May 7, 2019, 11:17 am
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@rankourabu I used the java script on the Aeroplan search page to get the MPM. Was not aware of the rarity of YYZ-IST. Do you have any suggestion on alternatives with reasonable availabilities in J? I saw plenty of YYZ-FRA-IST, of course that comes with $600 scamcharges. How about YYZ-ZRH on Swiss as the first leg, is it rare too?
May 7, 2019, 12:37 pm
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@rankourabu I used the java script on the Aeroplan search page to get the MPM. Was not aware of the rarity of YYZ-IST. Do you have any suggestion on alternatives with reasonable availabilities in J? I saw plenty of YYZ-FRA-IST, of course that comes with $600 scamcharges. How about YYZ-ZRH on Swiss as the first leg, is it rare too?
Last edited by jasdou; May 7, 2019 at 1:08 pm
May 7, 2019, 3:27 pm
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@rankourabu I used the java script on the Aeroplan search page to get the MPM. Was not aware of the rarity of YYZ-IST. Do you have any suggestion on alternatives with reasonable availabilities in J? I saw plenty of YYZ-FRA-IST, of course that comes with $600 scamcharges. How about YYZ-ZRH on Swiss as the first leg, is it rare too?
May 7, 2019, 3:34 pm
#10
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If you don't mind changing up the order, I'm seeing availability on a couple of random dates, YYZ-CAI-IST-FCO, with the first two legs operated by MS and the last leg by TK. I'm still having trouble imagining that MPM is 7500 when the direct distance is only around 4300, but great if it is.
May 7, 2019, 4:51 pm
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Maybe look at BRI as destination? It's MPM is 8217 from YYZ so you could do:
YYZ-YUL(AC)-ZRH(LX)-CAI(LX)-ATH(A3 or MS)-IST(TK)-BRI(TK) which is all decent or good carriers, low YQ and generally good availability at 7415 total miles.
Could even play around with the order as long as you make sure either ATH or IST is last before BRI. If you're extra adventurous you could look at adding some other stops between those cities - HBE and BEY come to mind. YYZ-YUL(AC)-ZRH(LX)-CAI(LX)-HBE(MS)-BEY(MS)-ATH(A3)-IST(TK)-BRI(TK) is 7943 miles so allowed, though I'm not sure if there is a maximum permitted number of legs on a 1 way!
Hope it works out for you!
YYZ-YUL(AC)-ZRH(LX)-CAI(LX)-ATH(A3 or MS)-IST(TK)-BRI(TK) which is all decent or good carriers, low YQ and generally good availability at 7415 total miles.
Could even play around with the order as long as you make sure either ATH or IST is last before BRI. If you're extra adventurous you could look at adding some other stops between those cities - HBE and BEY come to mind. YYZ-YUL(AC)-ZRH(LX)-CAI(LX)-HBE(MS)-BEY(MS)-ATH(A3)-IST(TK)-BRI(TK) is 7943 miles so allowed, though I'm not sure if there is a maximum permitted number of legs on a 1 way!
Hope it works out for you!
Last edited by opentag; May 7, 2019 at 5:50 pm
May 7, 2019, 7:40 pm
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When I flew my FONE6 rtw two years ago, there was something about airline systems not being able to handle more than 16 segments, and that seems to be more a broad limitation than an Aeroplan rule.
May 7, 2019, 10:07 pm
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YYZ-IST on TK isn't so bad in my experience. I was able to get 4 business seats (2 each way) last year via Aeroplan; booking at the 5 month before travel mark.
If you can hit a pocket of good TK availability, then you will be fine. You might try Boston and Dulles, which I have had success as well.
If you can hit a pocket of good TK availability, then you will be fine. You might try Boston and Dulles, which I have had success as well.