AC now ranked "one of the worst performers" for OTP
#196
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It would interesting to look at a block time comparison between the 2 carriers. Does Westjet allow more time in their schedule for things like deicing? It would also be interesting to know what the OTP breakdown is by domestic versus transborder versus international. It seems that the AC Express schedule (not sure if that is included in the numbers) in Alberta is so tight that they invariably run behind if there is only a slight delay.
#197
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As Walt Kelly’s Pogo once said, “We have met the enemy and it is us.”
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I doubt and AC could be much worse! If they had not cancelled so many flights, would they have even lower numbers? Perhaps win worst in the world again?
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Not really. That would only hold true in a free markets. It doesn’t hold true in relatively low competition markets like the Canadian aviation market. There only so many seats the competition are willing to - or are allowed to - sell. Allow cabotage and open skies and then you can blame consumers. Right now, even carriers of last resort will find desperate passengers to fill planes up.
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#201
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We departed an hour and a half later.
Point being, the GA seemed to sincerely believe they can turn around a 787 in 20 minutes. I mean, come on ... they can't even turn a Dash 8 in under half an hour.
#203
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Why do AC agents insist on posting/announcing information that they know is untrue?
#204
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I've flown a few QF and NZ flights recently and was very impressed as to how quickly they could turn round and board the flight. Stuff like scanning your own boarding pass helps. An entire international 789 was fully boarded in about 20 minutes. When I was leaving an aircraft in CHC the cleaning crew were already at at work (and I was in row 22 - about half way down).
So what's the issue with AC?
So what's the issue with AC?
#205
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I've flown a few QF and NZ flights recently and was very impressed as to how quickly they could turn round and board the flight. Stuff like scanning your own boarding pass helps. An entire international 789 was fully boarded in about 20 minutes. When I was leaving an aircraft in CHC the cleaning crew were already at at work (and I was in row 22 - about half way down).
So what's the issue with AC?
So what's the issue with AC?
I’m going to guess NZ decided not to squeeze checked baggage fees out of anyone on that international flight, with pax consequently being more economical with carry-on baggage. And I’m willing to bet they pay more for cleaning than AC does, or ever will.
On some airlines, customer experience matters. On others, passengers are a birthright who can be taken for granted.
#206
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I don't call it negligence. I call it something to consider when I book a flight.
If I need to be there on time, I book on Westjet. Or one of the US carriers.
There aren't too many occasions where I think " yeah, I can afford to spend seven hours hanging around the airport" and book AC for the hell of it.
If I need to be there on time, I book on Westjet. Or one of the US carriers.
There aren't too many occasions where I think " yeah, I can afford to spend seven hours hanging around the airport" and book AC for the hell of it.
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I guess it depends where you fly. There are some small markets served by AC and AC alone, I suppose, but I can get to most places in the world - and certainly most places I need to go - on either WS or one of the US carriers - DL in particular.
#208
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A rare event, indeed. Inbound was full, outbound we were 12 +/- pax on an 8pm scheduled departure
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So its been a while. But OAG started publishing OTP stats again.
Looks like thinning the schedule is really working out for AC! Have their OTP stats ever been this good? (May 2021)
It will be interesting to see the decline when more flights are added to the schedule.
Looks like thinning the schedule is really working out for AC! Have their OTP stats ever been this good? (May 2021)
It will be interesting to see the decline when more flights are added to the schedule.
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I guess that's not surprising when there are many many hours between flights. Once things pick up, it will likely drop.