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AC now ranked "one of the worst performers" for OTP

AC now ranked "one of the worst performers" for OTP

Old Sep 5, 19, 1:03 am
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I am sure this is all typical of airline ops and stuff happens....or fleet constraints, or.....


AC0754/04SEP EQU ACA789P01
CTY TML ARR DEP GRND AIR CABINS J O Y
SFO - 2230 - 04.54
YYZ 0624*1 TOTAL TIME SFOYYZ 4.54

RMKS/WAS 788 NOW B789 ACCT FIN804 MTC ROUTING. DYLD AWAITING I
NBOUND FIN 835. SR


SFO 0020 01:50L YYZ 0756 01:32L 789 EQI ED EA
DEP TML IN GATE --/G93
ARR TML T1 GATE --/——


AC0739/04SEP EQU ACA789P01
CTY TML ARR DEP GRND AIR CABINS J O Y
YYZ - 1840 - 05.28
SFO 2108 TOTAL TIME YYZSFO 5.28

RMKS/WAS B788 NOW B789 ACCT FIN804 MTC ROUTING. DYLD DUE FIN 8
35 YYZ MAINTENANCE AOG. SR


YYZ 2026 01:46L SFO 2246 01:38L 789 MTF AD AA
DEP TML T1 GATE --/F61
ARR TML IN GATE --/——


AC0837/04SEP EQU ACA789P01
CTY TML ARR DEP GRND AIR CABINS J O Y
MAD - 0900 - 08.10
YYZ 1110 TOTAL TIME MADYYZ 8.10

RMKS/DLYD DUE TO LATE I/B ACNT OF FLEET CONSTRAINTS DUE TO UNSK
ED MTCE ON FIN841/ENGINE CHANGE/PR


MAD 1044 01:44L YYZ 1300 01:50L 789 EQI AD AA
DEP TML 1 GATE --/AB
ARR TML T1 GATE --/——


AC0836/04SEP EQU ACA789P01
CTY TML ARR DEP GRND AIR CABINS J O Y
YYZ - 1810 - 07.10
MAD 0720*1 TOTAL TIME YYZMAD 7.10

RMKS/FIN 831 - DLYD DUE FOPS REQUIRED ADDIDTIONAL TIME TO INPUT
ALL DATA INTO A/C COMPUTORS //LL.


YYZ 1822 00:12L MAD 0726 00:06L 789 GNC AD AA
DEP TML T1 GATE --/E77
ARR TML 1 GATE --/——
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Old Sep 5, 19, 9:22 am
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All of which would no doubt be considered safety issues (rightly or wrongly) according to the AC playbook in order to ensure they dodge any potential compensation for pax.
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Old Oct 2, 19, 5:31 pm
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Yeah once APPR kicks in on Dec 15 I wonder if we will see any improvements on OTP. Considering 3-6 hours delay is a $400 compensation per pax; and a 2 hour+ delay requires food/drink vouchers.

If only I could backdate that...I've probably had more than 15 segments this year with a 3 hour+ delay.

In other news, another delayed flight right now.
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Old Oct 2, 19, 5:35 pm
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Originally Posted by 24left View Post
I am sure this is all typical of airline ops and stuff happens....or fleet constraints, or.....


AC0754/04SEP EQU ACA789P01
CTY TML ARR DEP GRND AIR CABINS J O Y
SFO - 2230 - 04.54
YYZ 0624*1 TOTAL TIME SFOYYZ 4.54
Dumb question, how/where are you getting these?
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Old Oct 2, 19, 5:38 pm
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Originally Posted by secretalcoholic View Post
Yeah once APPR kicks in on Dec 15 I wonder if we will see any improvements on OTP. Considering 3-6 hours delay is a $400 compensation per pax; and a 2 hour+ delay requires food/drink vouchers.

If only I could backdate that...I've probably had more than 15 segments this year with a 3 hour+ delay.

In other news, another delayed flight right now.
APPR is useless. There is a loophole where airlines can claim "safety".

Also, looks like the horrible Canadian winter has once again affected AC, who keep steady in last place in North America


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Old Oct 2, 19, 5:42 pm
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Originally Posted by rankourabu View Post
APPR is useless. There is a loophole where airlines can claim "safety".

Also, looks like the horrible Canadian winter has once again affected AC, who keep steady in last place in North America


August
That's true, everything will be 'safety' now We'll see how that holds up with the agency though.

And I must be missing out on this winter that we speak of since I'm in Toronto and in shorts everyday...
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Old Oct 2, 19, 5:56 pm
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Originally Posted by secretalcoholic View Post
And I must be missing out on this winter that we speak of since I'm in Toronto and in shorts everyday...
Harsh Canadian winter is on of the main excuses AC defenders use to justify the worst OTP in North America
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Old Oct 2, 19, 5:58 pm
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Originally Posted by secretalcoholic View Post
That's true, everything will be 'safety' now We'll see how that holds up with the agency though.
Nearly all delays are actually due to safety (weather, ATC, maintenance, crew timeouts, crew rest, ...). Which is why the new regulations are almost completely useless.
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Old Oct 2, 19, 6:04 pm
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Originally Posted by secretalcoholic View Post
Dumb question, how/where are you getting these?
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Old Oct 3, 19, 10:35 am
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Originally Posted by rankourabu View Post
Harsh Canadian winter is on of the main excuses AC defenders use to justify the worst OTP in North America
Now we can say The delays are caused by ACs high regard on safety.
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Old Oct 3, 19, 11:58 am
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Now we can say The delays are caused by ACs high regard on safety.
As opposed to all of those other airlines with better OTP which must mean they have a positively reckless disregard for safety.

You have a future (or is it current?) career in AC Marketing or Investor Relations.
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Old Oct 3, 19, 12:06 pm
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As opposed to all of those other airlines with better OTP which must mean they have a positively reckless disregard for safety.

You have a future (or is it current?) career in AC Marketing or Investor Relations.
I will consider working for AC if I can take a one year break from my current job. Though I would prefer working in maintenance or any job that can get me close to a plane. And by then maintenance doing plane spotting on the job may be the cause of poor OTP.
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Air Canada squeaked into the so-called punctuality league, placing 20th among "mega airlines" behind the big U.S. carriers as well as British Airways, Lufthansa, and Air China.

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