Roll Call: Post 737Max Return to Service Flights - Your Plans (Planned/Reality)
Apr 22, 2019, 8:47 am
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OP, I asked a legitimate question - because you, and many others here simply won’t even acknowledge the facts in the Tariff, then strikes me you are either making an uninformed purchase (happens all the time), or more likely remarkable bravado to boldly state on this Forum what you will do when MAX likely returns to service - but when you are confronted with an aircraft swap that goes unnoticed until you have boarded and in your seat - the question stands, do you de-board, miss your flight, and maybe even lose your airfare?
But of course best never to ask on FT real life questions because it may expose what FTers say here and actually do are miles apart!
good luck with your fantasy poll - and attacking me doesn’t make my question go away.
Now, with this out of the way, as far as my future behaviour is concerned, you're right. It is currently very simple for me to avoid the 737-8 when I only have one return trip planned for the whole year and the probability of the aircraft swap to 737-8 on the route I'm taking is close to zero. But at the same time I'm looking for a field job. Should I finally break through of the barrier built of desire having the service department located in Toronto and reinforced with ageism, I wouldn't complicate my relationship with my new employer by avoiding certain flights. Definitely not in the beginning.
Apr 22, 2019, 9:25 am
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1. Sadly, likely yes.
2. Yes, but more for comfort reasons than safety.
Given that AC had elected to use the 7M8 as the backbone of its single-aisle fleet moving forward, it’s going to become impossible to avoid flying on it. But I will continue to favour other options whenever it is possible to do so. That includes booking on other airlines.
2. Yes, but more for comfort reasons than safety.
Given that AC had elected to use the 7M8 as the backbone of its single-aisle fleet moving forward, it’s going to become impossible to avoid flying on it. But I will continue to favour other options whenever it is possible to do so. That includes booking on other airlines.
Apr 22, 2019, 10:42 am
#63
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OP, I asked a legitimate question - because you, and many others here simply won’t even acknowledge the facts in the Tariff, then strikes me you are either making an uninformed purchase (happens all the time), or more likely remarkable bravado to boldly state on this Forum what you will do when MAX likely returns to service - but when you are confronted with an aircraft swap that goes unnoticed until you have boarded and in your seat - the question stands, do you de-board, miss your flight, and maybe even lose your airfare?
But of course best never to ask on FT real life questions because it may expose what FTers say here and actually do are miles apart!
good luck with your fantasy poll - and attacking me doesn’t make my question go away.
LOL. Yes, I guess most of us planning in this way are mostly just idiots.
I do about 150,000 miles a year. I'm intimately familiar with last minute aircraft swaps, having lived through the 767 swapping on YYZ-YVR back in the 2000's.
Most my flying is on Flight Passes, Latitude, so I have flexibility. I use ExpertFlyer, so I'll probably set myself up with aircraft change alerts. Many of the routes on which the 737Max were on service have multiple flights, so yes, I have options. SDC too.
So yes, I can consciously and *actively* be aware and involved in the choice.
Apr 22, 2019, 11:59 am
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OP, I asked a legitimate question - because you, and many others here simply won’t even acknowledge the facts in the Tariff, then strikes me you are either making an uninformed purchase (happens all the time), or more likely remarkable bravado to boldly state on this Forum what you will do when MAX likely returns to service - but when you are confronted with an aircraft swap that goes unnoticed until you have boarded and in your seat - the question stands, do you de-board, miss your flight, and maybe even lose your airfare?
But of course best never to ask on FT real life questions because it may expose what FTers say here and actually do are miles apart!
good luck with your fantasy poll - and attacking me doesn’t make my question go away.
Sorry, but what you talking about? How would an aircraft swap go unnoticed until one is in his seat? Scotty would beam the pax into the seat? That said, another question is if one can still SDC when checked in and the flight is boarding.
Now, with this out of the way, as far as my future behaviour is concerned, you're right. It is currently very simple for me to avoid the 737-8 when I only have one return trip planned for the whole year and the probability of the aircraft swap to 737-8 on the route I'm taking is close to zero. But at the same time I'm looking for a field job. Should I finally break through of the barrier built of desire having the service department located in Toronto and reinforced with ageism, I wouldn't complicate my relationship with my new employer by avoiding certain flights. Definitely not in the beginning.
Now, with this out of the way, as far as my future behaviour is concerned, you're right. It is currently very simple for me to avoid the 737-8 when I only have one return trip planned for the whole year and the probability of the aircraft swap to 737-8 on the route I'm taking is close to zero. But at the same time I'm looking for a field job. Should I finally break through of the barrier built of desire having the service department located in Toronto and reinforced with ageism, I wouldn't complicate my relationship with my new employer by avoiding certain flights. Definitely not in the beginning.
And you can definitely easily SDC off a boarding flight. You cannot easily SDC onto a boarding flight (it requires the GA).
Apr 22, 2019, 7:07 pm
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"DELAY 0:45L DUE MULTIPLE PAX REFUSAL TO FLY MAX AIRCRAFT, BAGGAGE OFFLOAD REQUIRED"
Could of course lead to crew timeouts and flight cancellations as well.
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Apr 22, 2019, 10:19 pm
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Apr 23, 2019, 12:38 pm
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If (when) they put the MAX back in service they will appear to have total confidence in them. FTFY. As they had total confidence up to the time they were grounded. Heck, I don't think they have ever said they don't have total confidence in them. Even right now.
Apr 23, 2019, 2:03 pm
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Yes.
No. Personally.
With Mrs.acysb87 the order is reversed IOW, No and Yes
I was on a few 737 max flights this year and last year. I was actually looking forward to seeing what hype was all about.
The hype may be less evident on my next 737MAX flight
No. Personally.
With Mrs.acysb87 the order is reversed IOW, No and Yes
I was on a few 737 max flights this year and last year. I was actually looking forward to seeing what hype was all about.
The hype may be less evident on my next 737MAX flight
Apr 23, 2019, 3:51 pm
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Yes
No
I'm based in Alberta, and it seems that the 7M8s were taking over most of the YEG/YYC-YYZ flights before they were pulled, so avoiding them once they're back will be tough. Also, for 3-4 hour flights, I actually don't really care as far as comfort goes. In Y+, I'm fine.
Where I would avoid them - based purely on comfort - is on TATL flights. 3-4 hours is one thing, but once we get into 6,7 hours, I draw the line!
No
I'm based in Alberta, and it seems that the 7M8s were taking over most of the YEG/YYC-YYZ flights before they were pulled, so avoiding them once they're back will be tough. Also, for 3-4 hour flights, I actually don't really care as far as comfort goes. In Y+, I'm fine.
Where I would avoid them - based purely on comfort - is on TATL flights. 3-4 hours is one thing, but once we get into 6,7 hours, I draw the line!
Apr 24, 2019, 11:47 am
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Unless I'm mistaken there is a thread in which to discuss all MAX matters so let's please refocus this thread to being about the thread topic which is a roll call of what AC forum members plan to do if and when the ban on the aircraft is lifted and it return to service.
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