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Old Mar 20, 19, 12:11 pm
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Flight Cancelled- Business class changed to Premium Rouge

My Toronto - Winnipeg flight AC265 was cancelled. I had a business class seat and my boarding pass reflected that. The replacement flight is AC1997 and my boarding pass now says Premium Rouge. Did I get a little screwed?
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Old Mar 20, 19, 12:16 pm
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On North America flights premium rouge is considered as business class.
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Old Mar 20, 19, 12:16 pm
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Originally Posted by Futura View Post
My Toronto - Winnipeg flight AC265 was cancelled. I had a business class seat and my boarding pass reflected that. The replacement flight is AC1997 and my boarding pass now says Premium Rouge. Did I get a little screwed?
No. You got rouged.

Domestically, there is no difference between mainline business class and Premium rouge, except for maybe the meal service. The seats are basically the same, but no seatback screen on the rouge plane.

Premium Rouge meals are served all at once on the tray, whereas AC domestic premium long hauls have a more elaborate meal service (hot entree served after salad plates cleared), along with cookies and ice cream for dessert. Check the north american catering thread to see if YYZ - YWG is a PLH.

Doesn't seem like AC265 was a PLH, so the meal service will be the same, whether rouge or mainline.
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Old Mar 20, 19, 12:17 pm
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yes and no.. mainstream calls business class while rouge calls premium rouge. thinking you have purchased banana republic belt and show up marked as gap belt even it's the same belt lol, both works...
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Old Mar 20, 19, 12:22 pm
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great information all - thank you!

Sounds like I got a little RougeScrewed then - if there is no seat back screen? I like to watch a movie. That being said, I get to my destination.- albeit late.
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Old Mar 20, 19, 12:23 pm
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Originally Posted by Futura View Post
great information all - thank you!

Sounds like I got a little RougeScrewed then - if there is no seat back screen? I like to watch a movie. That being said, I get to my destination.- albeit late.
You'll get an iPad (or similar).
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Old Mar 20, 19, 12:25 pm
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You'll get an iPad (or similar).
to keep?! Sweet!
This is turning out really well then
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to keep?! Sweet!
This is turning out really well then
not to keep, obviously, lol
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to keep?! Sweet!
This is turning out really well then
LOL---

I find the iPad has the most current movies loaded on it....more current than many of the IFEs on mainline.
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Old Mar 20, 19, 1:14 pm
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LOL---

I find the iPad has the most current movies loaded on it....more current than many of the IFEs on mainline.
I find this too. In fact, I think the iPad is better than the older IFE. The only downside is they collect them just before landing so you cannot keep watching till you get to the gate.
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Old Mar 20, 19, 1:31 pm
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Originally Posted by Jebby_ca View Post
No. You got rouged.

Domestically, there is no difference between mainline business class and Premium rouge, except for maybe the meal service. The seats are basically the same, but no seatback screen on the rouge plane.

Premium Rouge meals are served all at once on the tray, whereas AC domestic premium long hauls have a more elaborate meal service (hot entree served after salad plates cleared), along with cookies and ice cream for dessert. Check the north american catering thread to see if YYZ - YWG is a PLH.

Doesn't seem like AC265 was a PLH, so the meal service will be the same, whether rouge or mainline.
Actually on YYZ-YWG the meal service is essentially the same. Only premium trans-con routes (YVR/YYC/YEG-YYZ/YUL) have a separate main course. Every other route is now the main served on the same tray as the dessert and salad. You could argue that the only thing different between domestic mainline business class on a narrow body and domestic on rouge is the setback screen, so they are basically interchangeable.
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Old Mar 20, 19, 1:36 pm
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No. You got rouged. ...Ö..
I have always referred to it as scRouged
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I didn't mind AC Rouge on YVR-LAS recently. Pretty much no difference to United First.
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I find this too. In fact, I think the iPad is better than the older IFE. The only downside is they collect them just before landing so you cannot keep watching till you get to the gate.
This. On the provided iPads you get both the streaming entertainment (which is what you could also access on your own device and mirrors much of what would be regular IFE) and the preloaded movies - which are MUCH better (and not available if you use your own device).
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Old Mar 20, 19, 5:24 pm
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Originally Posted by dr_torch View Post
I find this too. In fact, I think the iPad is better than the older IFE. The only downside is they collect them just before landing so you cannot keep watching till you get to the gate.
About 30 mins before landing, this didnít make me happy. But content was okay (not huge mind) and much more functional than many of the older planes IFE. If you end up flying circles and driving around the airport can be a little annoying.

Rouge crews tend to be younger and this can be good or bad - service wise etc. Not that AC Mainline has consistent service.
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