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Mar 17, 2019: Fire in International YYZ T1, evacuated, Intl/US flights impacted

Mar 17, 2019: Fire in International YYZ T1, evacuated, Intl/US flights impacted

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Old Mar 18, 19, 7:56 am
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Originally Posted by 24left View Post
it should be interesting to see AC crisis management in action.
I dodged the storm in DEN this week with an hour to spare, dodged the MAX8 grounding and made it from YVR-LIM both flights on time (UA, not AC), so I'm golden !

I'll refrain for a moment from editorializing about some irrational perception of AC's ability to manage a crisis and ask those who were there in the action to tell us how that went.
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Old Mar 18, 19, 8:07 am
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For anyone wondering, domestic flights seem unaffected. Friend actually arrived early (yes AC).

Good luck to everyone flying TB/Intl. Safe travels.
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Old Mar 18, 19, 8:09 am
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Had a flight this morning AC700, security/cbp was on the lighter side (Gate F). Seems like they were pulling people from early flights in the line to rush them in the front. My flight only had a very small delay but that was because of LGA. The airport did smell like a campfire throughout terminal 1, that got my appetite hungry but that's when I realized a lot of the morning shops that are usually opened were not. Besides that, the damage was much less than I expected..

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Old Mar 18, 19, 8:11 am
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A photo really can't do the E gate security justice from last night, like I said upthread, but this is the one I took. There were maybe a hundred more people to my right, and then hundreds more out of view around the corner closer to the terminal entrance and towards pillar 15 where they were trying to get people to go to wait.

There were maybe half a dozen police that I saw, who seemed to have no information, and one agent from Air Canada who made periodic appearances and who had no information but who was telling people to move away from the E gate entrance and she was mostly ignored. Other than that the scene pretty much looked liked this for 3 hours, zero information provided by Pearson or anyone else the entire time, then they unceremoniously reopened the E gate security and then had one CATSA employee trying to crowd control this mass of humanity.
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Old Mar 18, 19, 8:54 am
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Originally Posted by 24left View Post

AC0858/17MAR EQU ACA77WH01
CTY TML ARR DEP GRND AIR CABINS J O Y
YYZ - 2355 - 07.25
LHR 1120*1 TOTAL TIME YYZLHR 7.25
RMKS/DLYD DUE LATE INBND AC859 ACCNT WAITING FOR PXS TO BE SEAT
ED AND THEN DUE TO APRON CO FOR LHR HAILSTORM, DLYD DUE
TO FIRE IN YYZ TERMINAL

YYZ 0130 01:35L LHR 1238 01:18L 77W EQI ED EA
DEP TML T1 GATE --/E76
ARR TML 2 GATE --/-----
This was our beauty last night - we pushed back around 2:30am or so, about 2.5 hours late. Arrived in London and through LHR by 2pm local.

NEXUS was the big winner last night - I got through Intl security in about 3 minutes, whereas I'm sure that backlog took hours to clear through.

All and all, given the situation, I came out ahead, but I'm sure it was a nightmare travel night for a lot of people and families.


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Old Mar 18, 19, 12:12 pm
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Old Mar 18, 19, 12:45 pm
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Originally Posted by 24left View Post



AC0868/17MAR EQU ACA789P01
CTY TML ARR DEP GRND AIR CABINS J O Y
YYZ - 0930 - 06.50
LHR 2020 TOTAL TIME YYZLHR 6.50
RMKS/DLYD DUE FLEET CONSTRAINTS PROVIDING REQUIRED CAPACITY
YYZ 0005 14:35L LHR 1058 14:38L 789 GNC AD AA
DEP TML T1 GATE --/E78
ARR TML 2 GATE --/-----



And March 18

AC0868/18MAR EQU ACA789P01
CTY TML ARR DEP GRND AIR CABINS J O Y
YYZ - 0930 - 06.50
LHR 2020 TOTAL TIME YYZLHR 6.50
YYZ 2300 13:30L LHR 0950 13:30L 789 SOP ED EA
DEP TML T1 GATE --/E71
ARR TML 2 GATE --/-----
RMKS/DLYD DUE FLEET CONSTRAINTS PROVIDING REQUIRED CAPACITY
What does this have to do with the fire? The first flight was delayed hours before the fire, and unlike many other flights we've seen here, neither of them mention the fire in the remarks.
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Old Mar 18, 19, 12:59 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow View Post
What does this have to do with the fire? The first flight was delayed hours before the fire, and unlike many other flights we've seen here, neither of them mention the fire in the remarks.
I'm sure others here would say many delays are as a result of related to the fire at YYZ.

Meanwhile

AC0848/17MAR EQU ACA77WC01
CTY TML ARR DEP GRND AIR CABINS J O Y
YYZ - 2130 - 07.00
LHR 0830*1 TOTAL TIME YYZLHR 7.00
RMKS/DLYD DUE TO FIRE IN YYZ TERMINAL
YYZ 0006 02:36L LHR 1114 02:44L 77W GNC AD AA
DEP TML T1 GATE --/E71
ARR TML 2 GATE --/-----




AC0876/17MAR EQU ACA789P01
CTY TML ARR DEP GRND AIR CABINS J O Y
YYZ - 2240 - 07.30
FRA 1110*1 TOTAL TIME YYZFRA 7.30
RMKS/DLYD DUE FIRE IN YYZ TERMINAL
YYZ 0059 02:19L FRA 1340 02:30L 789 GNC AD AA
DEP TML T1 GATE --/E79
ARR TML 1 GATE --/-----





Probably a few other flights if someone feels like searching for them
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Old Mar 18, 19, 1:10 pm
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Originally Posted by 24left View Post
I'm sure others here would say many delays are as a result of related to the fire at YYZ.
Yes, as can clearly be seen by the remarks on those flights, but not on the 868 pair you posted.
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Old Mar 18, 19, 1:13 pm
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AC's travel advisory calls the YYZ fire a 'airport facilities constraint', I'm assuming thats different from DUE FLEET CONSTRAINTS PROVIDING REQUIRED CAPACITY
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Old Mar 18, 19, 2:57 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow View Post
Yes, as can clearly be seen by the remarks on those flights, but not on the 868 pair you posted.
The remarks (RMKS/DLYD DUE FLEET CONSTRAINTS PROVIDING REQUIRED CAPACITY) lead me to believe AC is very likely using the 789 to operate upgauged domestic or transborder flying to cover for the 7M8 fleet grounding. It probably has nothing to do with the fire, as you said.
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Old Mar 18, 19, 4:12 pm
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Originally Posted by secretalcoholic View Post
i feel like AC is using this incident as an excuse to delay flights.
The terminal was evacuated for some time and security was not able to effectively process the backlog.
That's not on AC.
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Old Mar 18, 19, 4:31 pm
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Originally Posted by AskTravis View Post
It's a zoo here... no one going anywhere, as security check points are all still closed.

And it smells like burgers, worse case scenario with landside options....
True, but this is a thread about the fire.
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Old Mar 18, 19, 4:35 pm
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Originally Posted by canopus27 View Post
I don't know what would be worse ... to be stuck in the airport, in a crowd of thousands of people, trying to get to your flight .... or to be locked in a plane after your flight, unable to get to the terminal.

Both would suuuuuuuuuuuuck
Have you flown hospital class?
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Old Mar 18, 19, 5:00 pm
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Originally Posted by KenHamer View Post
Have you flown hospital class?
I have, actually .... was stuck in Y on a flight from FRA-YYZ on Saturday .... and yeah, it sucked.

But I'm not convinced that being locked in a building that was filling with smoke, with several thousand other travelers, would be a whole lot happier ....
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