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-   -   Grounding of 737 Max - Effect on AC incl OMNI 767 lease (https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/air-canada-aeroplan/1960494-grounding-737-max-effect-ac-incl-omni-767-lease.html)

Eternity000 Mar 12, 2019 9:31 am
Grounding of 737 Max - Effect on AC incl OMNI 767 lease
 
So with the UK, Germany & France + others banning the 737max it is essentially restricted to US/Canada airspace. I have a flight to Martinique on Sunday, which I assume falls under French airspace rules. The flight is nearly fully booked, so even a swap to a 319 or 320 wouldn't be enough in terms of seats. Any ideas on what Air Canada will be doing in the situation?

Going to be even worse if they can no longer use the fleet in North American airspace....

AtlanticXpat Mar 12, 2019 9:33 am
Presumably YYT-LHR and YHZ-LHR will be suspended.

5mm Mar 12, 2019 9:35 am
Originally Posted by Eternity000 (Post 30877542)
So with the UK, Germany & France + others banning the 737max it is essentially restricted to US/Canada airspace. I have a flight to Martinique on Sunday, which I assume falls under French airspace rules. The flight is nearly fully booked, so even a swap to a 319 or 320 wouldn't be enough in terms of seats. Any ideas on what Air Canada will be doing in the situation?

Going to be even worse if they can no longer use the fleet in North American airspace....
For Canadian airlines, only London is effected so far. Dublin is this a go.(Not counting Sunwing)

Eternity000 Mar 12, 2019 9:36 am
FDF (Martinique)
PTP (Guadeloupe)
SXM (Saint-Maarten)

Any other carribean islands under European authority where AC uses the 737Max?

Stranger Mar 12, 2019 9:37 am
Originally Posted by Eternity000 (Post 30877565)
FDF (Martinique)
PTP (Guadeloupe)
SXM (Saint-Maarten)

Any other carribean islands under European authority where AC uses the 737Max?
Did France and the Netherlands ban the Max at this point?

Stranger Mar 12, 2019 9:39 am
But apparently Germany and Ireland are banning too.

5mm Mar 12, 2019 9:39 am
Originally Posted by Stranger (Post 30877568)
Did France and the Netherlands ban the Max at this point?
No

Eternity000 Mar 12, 2019 9:42 am
Originally Posted by Stranger (Post 30877584)
But apparently Germany and Ireland are banning too.
Originally Posted by 5mm (Post 30877585)
No
Looks like it. Just wondering if this applies to the Carribean too.

https://www.thelocal.fr/20190312/fra...airlines-crash
https://globalnews.ca/news/5046921/b...aft-banned-uk/

chebert999 Mar 12, 2019 9:44 am
France just banned the MAX too.

Stranger Mar 12, 2019 9:44 am
Originally Posted by Eternity000 (Post 30877603)
So, France yes, there goes the BOD flight. But not the Netherlands so not SXM as of yet. Probably within an hour or so?

Eternity000 Mar 12, 2019 9:47 am
Originally Posted by Stranger (Post 30877614)
So, France yes, there goes the BOD flight. But not the Netherlands so not SXM as of yet. Probably within an hour or so?
Forgot that SXM was on the dutch part of the island. Really wondering how AC can replace all these flights? Generally would they cancel them or try with smaller planes and IDB a few people. I suppose the A321 has a larger capacity than the 737Max, but so few of those in the fleet.

nave888 Mar 12, 2019 9:48 am
Does AC have any of the ETOPS certified 319s left? Perhaps they could use one on YHZ-LHR with a refuelling stop in YYT? Or perhaps they could put a 763 on YHZ-YYT-LHR, seeing as both cities will see their LHR flights cut?

Stranger Mar 12, 2019 9:49 am
Originally Posted by Eternity000 (Post 30877625)
I suppose the A321 has a larger capacity than the 737Max, but so few of those in the fleet.
The 321 does not have the legs. They might be able to reassign some 767s, if they can find spare capacity for domestic routes?

YYT82 Mar 12, 2019 9:51 am
Originally Posted by AtlanticXpat (Post 30877551)
Presumably YYT-LHR and YHZ-LHR will be suspended.
You seem to forget that YYT-LHR was once served by C-GITP and C-GITR. Also, YHZ-LHR was once served by B763. AC just needs to hang onto the B763s longer.

Another solution: Rouge the two routes.

YYT82 Mar 12, 2019 9:52 am
Originally Posted by nave888 (Post 30877629)
Does AC have any of the ETOPS certified 319s left? Perhaps they could use one on YHZ-LHR with a refuelling stop in YYT? Or perhaps they could put a 763 on YHZ-YYT-LHR, seeing as both cities will see their LHR flights cut?
C-GITP and C-GITR are ETOPS certified.
AC can simply revert back to the way it was before on these two routes.


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