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Old Mar 12, 2019, 11:26 am
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Originally Posted by https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home/book/travel-news-and-updates/2019/737-airspace-closure.html
If you currently have a reservation for a flight between now and September 02, 2019 that was scheduled to be operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.
Read below for more details.

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May 29, 2019
If you are travelling within the next 72 hours, call:

1-833-354-5963

If you booked through a Travel Agency, please call them for immediate assistance
In compliance with Transport Canada's safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations, Air Canada has grounded its 24 737 MAX aircraft until further notice.Air Canada is now updating its May, June and July schedule to further optimize its fleet and re-accommodate customers. Because the timeline for the return to service of the 737 Max is unknown, for planning purposes and to provide customers certainty for booking and travel, Air Canada is removing all 737 MAX aircraft from its schedule until at least September 02, 2019. A summary of schedule changes for April is posted below in the following question and answer: "What is Air Canada doing to reschedule customers?". Additional schedule changes will be posted as warranted.
  • Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers.
  • We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible.
  • Given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada Call Centres.
  • If you are travelling within the next 72 hours, please call the number at the top of this page.
  • If you booked through a Travel Agent, you may contact them directly for assistance.
We appreciate our customers' patience as we work to get everyone on their way.

If you'd like to make other plansIf you currently have a reservation for a flight between now and September 02, 2019 that was scheduled to be operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.If you are impacted by this policy, you may contact Air Canada Reservations (1-888-247-2262). If you are travelling in the next 72 hours, please call Air Canada Reservations number at the top of this notice. If you purchased your ticket with AeroplanExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines., or Air Canada Vacations or your travel agent, please contact them directly.

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March 19, 2019

UPDATED - INFORMATION ON IMPACTED ROUTES


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UPDATED - Air Canada Responds to Transport Canada's Closure of Canadian Airspace to the Boeing 737 MAX Aircraft

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...e-closure.html

March 19, 2019

If you are travelling within the next 72 hours, call:

1-833-354-5963

If you booked through a Travel Agency, please call them for immediate assistance

In compliance with Transport Canada’s safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations, Air Canada has grounded its 24 737 MAX aircraft until further notice.

Air Canada is now updating its April and May schedule to further optimize its fleet and re-accommodate customers. Because the timeline for the return to service of the 737 Max is unknown, for planning purposes and to provide customers certainty for booking and travel, Air Canada is removing all 737 MAX aircraft from its schedule until at least July 1, 2019. A summary of schedule changes for April is posted below in the following question and answer: “What is Air Canada doing to reschedule customers?”. Additional schedule changes will be posted as warranted.
  • Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers.
  • We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible.
  • Given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada Call Centres.
  • If you are travelling within the next 72 hours, please call the number at the top of this page.
  • If you booked through a Travel Agent, you may contact them directly for assistance.
We appreciate our customers' patience as we work to get everyone on their way.

If you'd like to make other plans

If you currently have a reservation for a flight that was scheduled to be operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.

If you are impacted by this policy, you may contact Air Canada Reservations (1-888-247-2262). If you are travelling in the next 72 hours, please call Air Canada Reservations number at the top of this notice.

If you purchased your ticket with Aeroplan, or Air Canada Vacations or your travel agent, please contact them directly.


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March 13, 2019

Air Canada confirmed today that it will comply immediately with Transport Canada's safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations until further notice.

Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers. We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible. Given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada Call Centres. Priority will be given to customers travelling within the next 72 hours. We appreciate our customers' patience.

If you'd like to know what type of aircraft you are flying on, simply retrieve your booking from the My Bookings tab, then click on the 'Details' link in the Flight Details section. We also advise you to check the status of your flight before heading to the airport.

We fully support Transport Canada's decision and will continue to work with them towards a resolution of this situation as soon as possible.

Alternate Travel Plans
If you currently have a reservation for a flight operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.

If you are impacted by this policy, you may contact Air Canada Reservations (1-888-247-2262).

If you purchased your ticket with AeroplanExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines., or Air Canada Vacations or your Travel agent, please contact them directly Some questions you may have are below with our answers, but if you can't find what you need, contact us at 1-888-247-2262, or reach out to us on on FacebookExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines. or TwitterExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines..

How many Boeing 737 MAX aircraft does Air Canada have?
Air Canada has a fleet of 24 Boeing 737 MAX-8 aircraft, which have been in operation since 2017. We have a total fleet of 400 aircraft (including 24 737MAX), comprising Air Canada mainline, Air Canada Rouge and Air Canada Express aircraft.

Where do the Boeing 737 MAX aircraft fly to?
These aircraft operate flights across North America, to Mexico, the Caribbean, Hawaii, as well as from Atlantic Canada to London Heathrow.

How many Boeing 737 MAX flights are there each day, and how many passengers are affected?
We typically operate approximately 75 Boeing 737 MAX flights daily out of a total schedule of approximately 1,600 daily flights system-wide, representing less than six percent of our total flying.

We have a total fleet of 400 aircraft (including 24 Boeing 737 MAX), comprising Air Canada mainline, Air Canada Rouge and Air Canada Express aircraft.

What is Air Canada doing to reschedule customers?
We are making adjustments to our schedule to minimize the disruption to customers as much as possible, by optimizing the deployment of the rest of our fleet and looking at alternative options, including accommodating customers on other airlines.

As an example of some of our adjustments to Boeing 737 MAX flights cancelled, we have re-scheduled widebody aircraft to serve Hawaii starting today, March 13. Some flights will operate as scheduled with mainline or Air Canada Rouge aircraft, such as on Montreal-Martinique and Montreal-Guadeloupe. Other routes, notably Halifax-London and St. John's-London are cancelled in the short term, with customers being re-routed through our Montreal and Toronto hubs.

What should I do right now?
As changes are finalized in our flight schedule, customers whose flight times or flight numbers have changed can expect to receive an email detailing their updated itinerary. This information is also available in My Bookings on the Air Canada App.

If you are travelling soon, you can also contact us or your travel agent. Please understand that priority is being given to customers travelling within the next 72 hours.

We have also put in place a rebooking policy, space permitting, and without additional fees for affected customers. Given the magnitude of our Boeing 737 MAX operations, which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada's Call Centres.

Where can I go to for more information?
If you would like to know what type of aircraft you are flying on, simply retrieve your booking from the My Bookings tab, then click on the 'Details' link in the Flight Details section.

If you are travelling soon, you can contact us, reach out to our social media teams on FacebookExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines. or TwitterExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines., or call your travel agent.

We also advise you to check the status of your flight before going to the airport.

We thank all of our customers for their patience.

Will Air Canada cover my out-of-pocket expenses such as additional accommodation costs that I may incur as a result of these disruptions?
Our normal protocol for irregular events which are out of our control is in effect. We are regrettably unable to reimburse for such expenses.



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MONTREAL, March 13, 2019 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada confirmed today that it will comply immediately with Transport Canada's safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations until further notice.

Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers. We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible but given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada call centres and we appreciate our customers' patience.

Customers are further advised to check the status of their flight on aircanada.com prior to going to the airport.

We fully support this decision and will continue to work with Transport Canada towards resolution of this situation as soon as possible.


SOURCE Air Canada

For further information: Isabelle Arthur (Montréal), [email protected], 514 422-5788; Peter Fitzpatrick (Toronto), [email protected], 416 263-5576; Angela Mah (Vancouver), [email protected], 604 270-5741; Internet: aircanada.com

https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/2019...7-MAX-Aircraft




https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...to-london.html

Originally Posted by ac.com
Information on Air Canada Halifax-London and St. John’s-London service

March 12, 2019

Due to the UK's Civil Aviation Authority banning all Boeing 737 Max aircraft operations in the U.K. Air Canada has cancelled the following flights:

AC 860 Halifax London-Heathrow on March 12
AC861 London-Halifax on March 13
AC822 St. John’s-London on March 13
AC823London-St. John’s on March 14

We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible through our Montreal, Toronto and Ottawa hubs.

Affected customers may contact Air Canada Reservations to change their flights to another date free of charge.

As well, due to anticipated call volumes, customers can expect delays reaching Air Canada call centres, so we appreciate our customers’ patience.

Air Canada will provide updates as more information becomes available.
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Grounding of 737 Max - Effect on AC incl OMNI 767 lease

Old Aug 6, 2019, 11:08 am
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My return flight OGG - YVR -YQR for 23 August was cancelled a couple of weeks ago and they had booked us for the day earlier. I looked at cancelling and rebooking but for 4 of us, even in Y , it was going to be a lot more ( several thousand more as we had got a great deal when we originally booked). I called and was told they were no longer flying that route on Fridays. I asked to be rescheduled OGG -LAX on UA, LAX-YVR and YVR-YQR on AC. I am actually pleased because as a UA 1K I was able to select E+ and get wait listed for an UG on the overnight segment. They even offered LAX-YYZ-YQR, arriving only a couple of hours later, which if I wasn't travelling with 2 grandkids I would have taken gratefully.
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Old Aug 6, 2019, 11:16 am
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I asked AC via Twitter and they confirmed that the Omni 767 will continue to service HNL through October at least.
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Old Aug 6, 2019, 1:03 pm
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Originally Posted by TheCanuckian
I asked AC via Twitter and they confirmed that the Omni 767 will continue to service HNL through October at least.
Did they give anymore details? Right now for flights after the 26 Oct its operated by Rouge. Maybe they'll offer a Rouge and an Omni flight?
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Old Aug 7, 2019, 5:26 am
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Originally Posted by sweethannah
Did they give anymore details? Right now for flights after the 26 Oct its operated by Rouge. Maybe they'll offer a Rouge and an Omni flight?
No, that’s all they gave me. I’ll see if there’s anything else they know.
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Old Aug 7, 2019, 5:16 pm
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I have a flight booked early Nov YYZ-HUX, which originally was 737 Max. It still shows as such on AC schedule...wondering when they change it (or just cancel it, in which case I will be looking for somewhere else to go)

Edit to add Aug 15-flight is now showing as A320 so looks good to go!

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Old Aug 7, 2019, 7:54 pm
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Originally Posted by Stratoliner777
Does this mean that it's weeks or even months down the line before the schedule through the end of 2019 is updated, and it possible that bookings may be canceled or moved?
Probably more like "days" or very small number of weeks, not "months". I got a schedule change today on my Dec 27 flight, switching from 737 Max to 767. The schedule tool on ac.com hasn't changed accordingly yet, mind you...
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Old Aug 7, 2019, 9:22 pm
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Originally Posted by 28isGreat
Probably more like "days" or very small number of weeks, not "months". I got a schedule change today on my Dec 27 flight, switching from 737 Max to 767. The schedule tool on ac.com hasn't changed accordingly yet, mind you...
My flight is on January 6, and no sked change email yet. The day flight is no longer being sold, however. Was your Dec. 27 flight a day schedule, or a redeye?
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Old Aug 7, 2019, 9:38 pm
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Originally Posted by transportprof
My flight is on January 6, and no sked change email yet. The day flight is no longer being sold, however. Was your Dec. 27 flight a day schedule, or a redeye?
Daytime. YYZ-YYC.
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Old Aug 10, 2019, 11:02 am
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AC seems to have forgotten about the HNL-YVR flights on January 6 - 7. Or they can't figure out what to do about them.

January 5 and January 8 flights have been de-MAX'd and now show as 763's in the booking engine. But Jan 6-7 are showing MAX!

It is most annoying to be held in limbo like this, at a peak travel time when other options are going up in price and down in availability.
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Old Aug 10, 2019, 1:02 pm
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I'm booked YVR-OGG in late December, morning flight, which is not showing in the schedule any more. Called AC to find out what is going on (26 minutes on the E line!), will I be switched to the late flight on the 762? Agent insisted the early flight is still scheduled, but not available for purchase. Don't worry, he says.

Translation: we're still trying to figure out what to do.

My take: clueless!
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Old Aug 10, 2019, 2:02 pm
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Originally Posted by Sopwith
I'm booked YVR-OGG in late December, morning flight, which is not showing in the schedule any more. Called AC to find out what is going on (26 minutes on the E line!), will I be switched to the late flight on the 762? Agent insisted the early flight is still scheduled, but not available for purchase. Don't worry, he says.

Translation: we're still trying to figure out what to do.

My take: clueless!
I'm also on a day return from HNL that isn't being sold, but has not been cancelled - yet. It's maddening!

Is there anything in the new passenger bill of rights that covers airlines not cancelling flights until the last minute that they are unlikely to operate? AC would probably claim force majeure, even if there were rules about what they should do.
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Old Aug 11, 2019, 5:24 pm
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Originally Posted by TheCanuckian
I asked AC via Twitter and they confirmed that the Omni 767 will continue to service HNL through October at least.
Originally Posted by sweethannah
Did they give anymore details? Right now for flights after the 26 Oct its operated by Rouge. Maybe they'll offer a Rouge and an Omni flight?
I tried the Twitter route re my OGG flight in Dec. Useless. The best they could do was tell me that the schedule for after Oct 26 would be posted “shortly”. They don’t know what “shortly” is. Sometimes I wonder why I waste my time trying to communicate with this sordid company.
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Old Aug 11, 2019, 6:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Sopwith



I tried the Twitter route re my OGG flight in Dec. Useless. The best they could do was tell me that the schedule for after Oct 26 would be posted “shortly”. They don’t know what “shortly” is. Sometimes I wonder why I waste my time trying to communicate with this sordid company.
I am flying to HNL in mid-October and just got the email today notifying me that we’ve been switched to the Omni 767.
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Old Aug 11, 2019, 7:05 pm
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Originally Posted by TheCanuckian


I am flying to HNL in mid-October and just got the email today notifying me that we’ve been switched to the Omni 767.
I was traveling at the end of October and only received notification my return flight was changed to Rouge. It was at that point I was able to cancel for a full refund. I took matters into my own hands and rebooked on a different airline.As far as I can tell they havent added my original flight back into the schedule. Given the price point of non stop alternatives I'm glad I changed. Its ridiculous one cant get a straight answer from Air Canada about whether or not flight will still be scheduled especially when it's been completely removed from the reservation system. I had more than one agent at Expedia tell me ' that flight is probably sold out.' 😑
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Old Aug 17, 2019, 11:16 am
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Hello: Long time lurker, first time caller. I have a AE reward booking YYJ-KOA return in mid February on the MAX, Just checked the schedules on both the website and app and it looks like the schedule is shifting in February as well. My outbound flight is no longer listed in the schedule, and the return in now Rouge 767 leaving earlier and requiring a layover in YVR. I have not yet received any email notification of the schedule changes on my booking. Should I jump on this now and try and change my booking, or wait for the email? My conundrum is that I have accommodation on the big island booked and paid for, so I need to arrive on the date previously booked, this is not possible to do if you need to connect via Honolulu as it arrives too late to get an interisland flight. Will have to see if AC will allow me to fly to Honolulu the day before and overnight there, alternatively it is possible via an all day slog on United, but I would prefer to avoid that.
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