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Air Canada Timetable Effective June 27, 2019 to September 29, 2019 (AC's link: https://services.aircanada.com/porta...metable-en.pdf)
Air Canada Timetable Effective June 20, 2019 to September 22, 2019
Air Canada Timetable Effective June 13, 2019 to September 15, 2019
Air Canada Timetable Effective June 6, 2019 to September 8, 2019
Air Canada Timetable Effective May 30, 2019 to September 1, 2019
Air Canada Timetable Effective May 23, 2019 to August 25, 2019
Air Canada Timetable Effective May 16, 2019 to August 18, 2019
Air Canada Timetable Effective May 9, 2019 to August 11, 2019
Air Canada Timetable Effective May 2, 2019 to August 4, 2019
Air Canada Timetable Effective April 25, 2019 to July 28, 2019
Air Canada Timetable Effective April 18, 2019 to July 21, 2019
Air Canada Timetable Effective April 11, 2019 to July 14, 2019
Air Canada Timetable Effective March 28, 2019 to June 30, 2019
May 29, 2019
If you'd like to make other plansIf you currently have a reservation for a flight between now and September 02, 2019 that was scheduled to be operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.If you are impacted by this policy, you may contact Air Canada Reservations (1-888-247-2262). If you are travelling in the next 72 hours, please call Air Canada Reservations number at the top of this notice. If you purchased your ticket with AeroplanExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines., or Air Canada Vacations or your travel agent, please contact them directly.
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March 19, 2019
UPDATED - INFORMATION ON IMPACTED ROUTES
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UPDATED - Air Canada Responds to Transport Canada's Closure of Canadian Airspace to the Boeing 737 MAX Aircraft
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...e-closure.html
March 19, 2019
If you are travelling within the next 72 hours, call:
1-833-354-5963
If you booked through a Travel Agency, please call them for immediate assistance
In compliance with Transport Canadas safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations, Air Canada has grounded its 24 737 MAX aircraft until further notice.
Air Canada is now updating its April and May schedule to further optimize its fleet and re-accommodate customers. Because the timeline for the return to service of the 737 Max is unknown, for planning purposes and to provide customers certainty for booking and travel, Air Canada is removing all 737 MAX aircraft from its schedule until at least July 1, 2019. A summary of schedule changes for April is posted below in the following question and answer: What is Air Canada doing to reschedule customers?. Additional schedule changes will be posted as warranted.
If you'd like to make other plans
If you currently have a reservation for a flight that was scheduled to be operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.
If you are impacted by this policy, you may contact Air Canada Reservations (1-888-247-2262). If you are travelling in the next 72 hours, please call Air Canada Reservations number at the top of this notice.
If you purchased your ticket with Aeroplan, or Air Canada Vacations or your travel agent, please contact them directly.
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March 13, 2019
Air Canada confirmed today that it will comply immediately with Transport Canada's safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations until further notice.
Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers. We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible. Given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada Call Centres. Priority will be given to customers travelling within the next 72 hours. We appreciate our customers' patience.
If you'd like to know what type of aircraft you are flying on, simply retrieve your booking from the My Bookings tab, then click on the 'Details' link in the Flight Details section. We also advise you to check the status of your flight before heading to the airport.
We fully support Transport Canada's decision and will continue to work with them towards a resolution of this situation as soon as possible.
Alternate Travel Plans
If you currently have a reservation for a flight operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.
If you are impacted by this policy, you may contact Air Canada Reservations (1-888-247-2262).
If you purchased your ticket with AeroplanExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines., or Air Canada Vacations or your Travel agent, please contact them directly Some questions you may have are below with our answers, but if you can't find what you need, contact us at 1-888-247-2262, or reach out to us on on FacebookExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines. or TwitterExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines..
How many Boeing 737 MAX aircraft does Air Canada have?
Air Canada has a fleet of 24 Boeing 737 MAX-8 aircraft, which have been in operation since 2017. We have a total fleet of 400 aircraft (including 24 737MAX), comprising Air Canada mainline, Air Canada Rouge and Air Canada Express aircraft.
Where do the Boeing 737 MAX aircraft fly to?
These aircraft operate flights across North America, to Mexico, the Caribbean, Hawaii, as well as from Atlantic Canada to London Heathrow.
How many Boeing 737 MAX flights are there each day, and how many passengers are affected?
We typically operate approximately 75 Boeing 737 MAX flights daily out of a total schedule of approximately 1,600 daily flights system-wide, representing less than six percent of our total flying.
We have a total fleet of 400 aircraft (including 24 Boeing 737 MAX), comprising Air Canada mainline, Air Canada Rouge and Air Canada Express aircraft.
What is Air Canada doing to reschedule customers?
We are making adjustments to our schedule to minimize the disruption to customers as much as possible, by optimizing the deployment of the rest of our fleet and looking at alternative options, including accommodating customers on other airlines.
As an example of some of our adjustments to Boeing 737 MAX flights cancelled, we have re-scheduled widebody aircraft to serve Hawaii starting today, March 13. Some flights will operate as scheduled with mainline or Air Canada Rouge aircraft, such as on Montreal-Martinique and Montreal-Guadeloupe. Other routes, notably Halifax-London and St. John's-London are cancelled in the short term, with customers being re-routed through our Montreal and Toronto hubs.
What should I do right now?
As changes are finalized in our flight schedule, customers whose flight times or flight numbers have changed can expect to receive an email detailing their updated itinerary. This information is also available in My Bookings on the Air Canada App.
If you are travelling soon, you can also contact us or your travel agent. Please understand that priority is being given to customers travelling within the next 72 hours.
We have also put in place a rebooking policy, space permitting, and without additional fees for affected customers. Given the magnitude of our Boeing 737 MAX operations, which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada's Call Centres.
Where can I go to for more information?
If you would like to know what type of aircraft you are flying on, simply retrieve your booking from the My Bookings tab, then click on the 'Details' link in the Flight Details section.
If you are travelling soon, you can contact us, reach out to our social media teams on FacebookExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines. or TwitterExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines., or call your travel agent.
We also advise you to check the status of your flight before going to the airport.
We thank all of our customers for their patience.
Will Air Canada cover my out-of-pocket expenses such as additional accommodation costs that I may incur as a result of these disruptions?
Our normal protocol for irregular events which are out of our control is in effect. We are regrettably unable to reimburse for such expenses.
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MONTREAL, March 13, 2019 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada confirmed today that it will comply immediately with Transport Canada's safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations until further notice.
Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers. We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible but given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada call centres and we appreciate our customers' patience.
Customers are further advised to check the status of their flight on aircanada.com prior to going to the airport.
We fully support this decision and will continue to work with Transport Canada towards resolution of this situation as soon as possible.
SOURCE Air Canada
For further information: Isabelle Arthur (Montral), [email protected], 514 422-5788; Peter Fitzpatrick (Toronto), [email protected], 416 263-5576; Angela Mah (Vancouver), [email protected], 604 270-5741; Internet: aircanada.com
https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/2019...7-MAX-Aircraft
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...to-london.html
Originally Posted by https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home/book/travel-news-and-updates/2019/737-airspace-closure.html
If you currently have a reservation for a flight between now and September 02, 2019 that was scheduled to be operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.
Air Canada Timetable Effective June 27, 2019 to September 29, 2019 (AC's link: https://services.aircanada.com/porta...metable-en.pdf)
May 29, 2019
If you are travelling within the next 72 hours, call:
1-833-354-5963
If you booked through a Travel Agency, please call them for immediate assistance
In compliance with Transport Canada's safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations, Air Canada has grounded its 24 737 MAX aircraft until further notice.Air Canada is now updating its May, June and July schedule to further optimize its fleet and re-accommodate customers. Because the timeline for the return to service of the 737 Max is unknown, for planning purposes and to provide customers certainty for booking and travel, Air Canada is removing all 737 MAX aircraft from its schedule until at least September 02, 2019. A summary of schedule changes for April is posted below in the following question and answer: "What is Air Canada doing to reschedule customers?". Additional schedule changes will be posted as warranted.1-833-354-5963
If you booked through a Travel Agency, please call them for immediate assistance
- Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers.
- We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible.
- Given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada Call Centres.
- If you are travelling within the next 72 hours, please call the number at the top of this page.
- If you booked through a Travel Agent, you may contact them directly for assistance.
If you'd like to make other plansIf you currently have a reservation for a flight between now and September 02, 2019 that was scheduled to be operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.If you are impacted by this policy, you may contact Air Canada Reservations (1-888-247-2262). If you are travelling in the next 72 hours, please call Air Canada Reservations number at the top of this notice. If you purchased your ticket with AeroplanExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines., or Air Canada Vacations or your travel agent, please contact them directly.
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March 19, 2019
UPDATED - INFORMATION ON IMPACTED ROUTES
**********
UPDATED - Air Canada Responds to Transport Canada's Closure of Canadian Airspace to the Boeing 737 MAX Aircraft
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...e-closure.html
March 19, 2019
If you are travelling within the next 72 hours, call:
1-833-354-5963
If you booked through a Travel Agency, please call them for immediate assistance
In compliance with Transport Canadas safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations, Air Canada has grounded its 24 737 MAX aircraft until further notice.
Air Canada is now updating its April and May schedule to further optimize its fleet and re-accommodate customers. Because the timeline for the return to service of the 737 Max is unknown, for planning purposes and to provide customers certainty for booking and travel, Air Canada is removing all 737 MAX aircraft from its schedule until at least July 1, 2019. A summary of schedule changes for April is posted below in the following question and answer: What is Air Canada doing to reschedule customers?. Additional schedule changes will be posted as warranted.
- Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers.
- We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible.
- Given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada Call Centres.
- If you are travelling within the next 72 hours, please call the number at the top of this page.
- If you booked through a Travel Agent, you may contact them directly for assistance.
If you'd like to make other plans
If you currently have a reservation for a flight that was scheduled to be operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.
If you are impacted by this policy, you may contact Air Canada Reservations (1-888-247-2262). If you are travelling in the next 72 hours, please call Air Canada Reservations number at the top of this notice.
If you purchased your ticket with Aeroplan, or Air Canada Vacations or your travel agent, please contact them directly.
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March 13, 2019
Air Canada confirmed today that it will comply immediately with Transport Canada's safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations until further notice.
Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers. We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible. Given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada Call Centres. Priority will be given to customers travelling within the next 72 hours. We appreciate our customers' patience.
If you'd like to know what type of aircraft you are flying on, simply retrieve your booking from the My Bookings tab, then click on the 'Details' link in the Flight Details section. We also advise you to check the status of your flight before heading to the airport.
We fully support Transport Canada's decision and will continue to work with them towards a resolution of this situation as soon as possible.
Alternate Travel Plans
If you currently have a reservation for a flight operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.
If you are impacted by this policy, you may contact Air Canada Reservations (1-888-247-2262).
If you purchased your ticket with AeroplanExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines., or Air Canada Vacations or your Travel agent, please contact them directly Some questions you may have are below with our answers, but if you can't find what you need, contact us at 1-888-247-2262, or reach out to us on on FacebookExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines. or TwitterExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines..
How many Boeing 737 MAX aircraft does Air Canada have?
Air Canada has a fleet of 24 Boeing 737 MAX-8 aircraft, which have been in operation since 2017. We have a total fleet of 400 aircraft (including 24 737MAX), comprising Air Canada mainline, Air Canada Rouge and Air Canada Express aircraft.
Where do the Boeing 737 MAX aircraft fly to?
These aircraft operate flights across North America, to Mexico, the Caribbean, Hawaii, as well as from Atlantic Canada to London Heathrow.
How many Boeing 737 MAX flights are there each day, and how many passengers are affected?
We typically operate approximately 75 Boeing 737 MAX flights daily out of a total schedule of approximately 1,600 daily flights system-wide, representing less than six percent of our total flying.
We have a total fleet of 400 aircraft (including 24 Boeing 737 MAX), comprising Air Canada mainline, Air Canada Rouge and Air Canada Express aircraft.
What is Air Canada doing to reschedule customers?
We are making adjustments to our schedule to minimize the disruption to customers as much as possible, by optimizing the deployment of the rest of our fleet and looking at alternative options, including accommodating customers on other airlines.
As an example of some of our adjustments to Boeing 737 MAX flights cancelled, we have re-scheduled widebody aircraft to serve Hawaii starting today, March 13. Some flights will operate as scheduled with mainline or Air Canada Rouge aircraft, such as on Montreal-Martinique and Montreal-Guadeloupe. Other routes, notably Halifax-London and St. John's-London are cancelled in the short term, with customers being re-routed through our Montreal and Toronto hubs.
What should I do right now?
As changes are finalized in our flight schedule, customers whose flight times or flight numbers have changed can expect to receive an email detailing their updated itinerary. This information is also available in My Bookings on the Air Canada App.
If you are travelling soon, you can also contact us or your travel agent. Please understand that priority is being given to customers travelling within the next 72 hours.
We have also put in place a rebooking policy, space permitting, and without additional fees for affected customers. Given the magnitude of our Boeing 737 MAX operations, which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada's Call Centres.
Where can I go to for more information?
If you would like to know what type of aircraft you are flying on, simply retrieve your booking from the My Bookings tab, then click on the 'Details' link in the Flight Details section.
If you are travelling soon, you can contact us, reach out to our social media teams on FacebookExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines. or TwitterExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines., or call your travel agent.
We also advise you to check the status of your flight before going to the airport.
We thank all of our customers for their patience.
Will Air Canada cover my out-of-pocket expenses such as additional accommodation costs that I may incur as a result of these disruptions?
Our normal protocol for irregular events which are out of our control is in effect. We are regrettably unable to reimburse for such expenses.
****
MONTREAL, March 13, 2019 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada confirmed today that it will comply immediately with Transport Canada's safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations until further notice.
Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers. We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible but given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada call centres and we appreciate our customers' patience.
Customers are further advised to check the status of their flight on aircanada.com prior to going to the airport.
We fully support this decision and will continue to work with Transport Canada towards resolution of this situation as soon as possible.
SOURCE Air Canada
For further information: Isabelle Arthur (Montral), [email protected], 514 422-5788; Peter Fitzpatrick (Toronto), [email protected], 416 263-5576; Angela Mah (Vancouver), [email protected], 604 270-5741; Internet: aircanada.com
https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/2019...7-MAX-Aircraft
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...to-london.html
Originally Posted by ac.com
Information on Air Canada Halifax-London and St. Johns-London service
March 12, 2019
Due to the UK's Civil Aviation Authority banning all Boeing 737 Max aircraft operations in the U.K. Air Canada has cancelled the following flights:
AC 860 Halifax London-Heathrow on March 12
AC861 London-Halifax on March 13
AC822 St. Johns-London on March 13
AC823London-St. Johns on March 14
We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible through our Montreal, Toronto and Ottawa hubs.
Affected customers may contact Air Canada Reservations to change their flights to another date free of charge.
As well, due to anticipated call volumes, customers can expect delays reaching Air Canada call centres, so we appreciate our customers patience.
Air Canada will provide updates as more information becomes available.
March 12, 2019
Due to the UK's Civil Aviation Authority banning all Boeing 737 Max aircraft operations in the U.K. Air Canada has cancelled the following flights:
AC 860 Halifax London-Heathrow on March 12
AC861 London-Halifax on March 13
AC822 St. Johns-London on March 13
AC823London-St. Johns on March 14
We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible through our Montreal, Toronto and Ottawa hubs.
Affected customers may contact Air Canada Reservations to change their flights to another date free of charge.
As well, due to anticipated call volumes, customers can expect delays reaching Air Canada call centres, so we appreciate our customers patience.
Air Canada will provide updates as more information becomes available.
Grounding of 737 Max - Effect on AC incl OMNI 767 lease
#796
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Feb 2004
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SE 2MM; UA MP Premier Silver; Marriott Bonvoy LT Titanium Elite; Radisson
Posts: 35,232
And another weekly PDF timetable updated now eff. June 6 to September 8, 2019
And another weekly PDF timetable updated now eff. May 30 to September 1, 2019 (sorry, was a few days late in posting this)
https://services.aircanada.com/porta...ABC975DFD72085
Wiki updated.
Here's the docdroid version for posterity and comparing against other recent PDF releases.
AC Timetable eff. May 30 to September 1, 2019
https://services.aircanada.com/porta...ABC975DFD72085
Wiki updated.
Here's the docdroid version for posterity and comparing against other recent PDF releases.
AC Timetable eff. May 30 to September 1, 2019
https://services.aircanada.com/porta...ABC975DFD72085
Wiki updated.
Here's the docdroid version for posterity and comparing against other recent PDF releases.
AC Timetable eff. June 6 to September 8, 2019
#797
Join Date: Feb 2007
Location: YVR
Programs: Erstwhile Accidental AC E35K
Posts: 2,908
Looking at YVR-OGG in October, AC is still advertising the 737M, which seems doubtful. In the meantime it looks like they're using Omni International 762 (whoever they are).
Any experience with these antiques? How is it?
Any experience with these antiques? How is it?
#798
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YXU
Programs: AC SE100K, National E/E, HH Diamond, IHG Diamond, MB, Avis P/P
Posts: 959
https://www.oai.aero/fleet?plane=B767-200ER
#799
Join Date: Jan 2010
Location: Toronto
Programs: BA Exec Club - Demoted to Bronze and re-promoted to Silver alongside AC Elite 50K (gold) in 2022
Posts: 391
Speaking up for the east coast of Canada, I do wonder why AC continue to neglect Halifax and St John's!
I realise that the Max played a big role in uniting both cities with the UK, Ireland and France in the last year or so, but I remember the days of a A319 flying St John's to London and a 767 from Halifax either direct or via St john's.
And now - nothing!!
Last night, you could watch WestJet fly Halifax to Dublin, Glasgow and Heathrow on 737-700's.
I realise AC don't have 737-700s, but they do have 767s, 319 and 321 aircraft and yet, they ignore Newfoundland and Nova Scotia. As a national carrier, surely they have to serve the whole country and not the duopoly routes within Canada where they can charge what they like, For a PAX from either city to fly to Europe to continue to be forced to fly via YUL or YYZ for around 10 hours plus seems to place commercial value (albeit with a reduced fleet) over the responsibilities of a national carrier.
One aircraft in the entire fleet would serve both Halifax and St John's and the UK - something WestJet seem to respect.
I realise that the Max played a big role in uniting both cities with the UK, Ireland and France in the last year or so, but I remember the days of a A319 flying St John's to London and a 767 from Halifax either direct or via St john's.
And now - nothing!!
Last night, you could watch WestJet fly Halifax to Dublin, Glasgow and Heathrow on 737-700's.
I realise AC don't have 737-700s, but they do have 767s, 319 and 321 aircraft and yet, they ignore Newfoundland and Nova Scotia. As a national carrier, surely they have to serve the whole country and not the duopoly routes within Canada where they can charge what they like, For a PAX from either city to fly to Europe to continue to be forced to fly via YUL or YYZ for around 10 hours plus seems to place commercial value (albeit with a reduced fleet) over the responsibilities of a national carrier.
One aircraft in the entire fleet would serve both Halifax and St John's and the UK - something WestJet seem to respect.
#800
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: YYC
Programs: AC SE 1MM, Marriott Ambassador
Posts: 3,392
Speaking up for the east coast of Canada, I do wonder why AC continue to neglect Halifax and St John's!
I realise that the Max played a big role in uniting both cities with the UK, Ireland and France in the last year or so, but I remember the days of a A319 flying St John's to London and a 767 from Halifax either direct or via St john's.
And now - nothing!!
Last night, you could watch WestJet fly Halifax to Dublin, Glasgow and Heathrow on 737-700's.
I realise AC don't have 737-700s, but they do have 767s, 319 and 321 aircraft and yet, they ignore Newfoundland and Nova Scotia. As a national carrier, surely they have to serve the whole country and not the duopoly routes within Canada where they can charge what they like, For a PAX from either city to fly to Europe to continue to be forced to fly via YUL or YYZ for around 10 hours plus seems to place commercial value (albeit with a reduced fleet) over the responsibilities of a national carrier.
One aircraft in the entire fleet would serve both Halifax and St John's and the UK - something WestJet seem to respect.
I realise that the Max played a big role in uniting both cities with the UK, Ireland and France in the last year or so, but I remember the days of a A319 flying St John's to London and a 767 from Halifax either direct or via St john's.
And now - nothing!!
Last night, you could watch WestJet fly Halifax to Dublin, Glasgow and Heathrow on 737-700's.
I realise AC don't have 737-700s, but they do have 767s, 319 and 321 aircraft and yet, they ignore Newfoundland and Nova Scotia. As a national carrier, surely they have to serve the whole country and not the duopoly routes within Canada where they can charge what they like, For a PAX from either city to fly to Europe to continue to be forced to fly via YUL or YYZ for around 10 hours plus seems to place commercial value (albeit with a reduced fleet) over the responsibilities of a national carrier.
One aircraft in the entire fleet would serve both Halifax and St John's and the UK - something WestJet seem to respect.
They dont have to serve anybody. They serve what is profitable. Full stop.
#801
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: YYC, Canada
Programs: AC 35k
Posts: 1,883
#802
Join Date: Apr 2016
Location: YHZ/YQM
Programs: Aeroplan
Posts: 1,618
AC has retired many of the 767's, and I've heard that the ETOPS rated A319's have gone over to Rouge.
The sad fact is that AC just doesn't have spare TATL capable aircraft to run these routes with so many MAX birds grounded. They've made the business decision that these are the best routes to cut given the fleet constraints. Yes, it stinks for my fellow East Coast folks, but we are used to sucking hind "nipple" (trying to use FT appropriate language). Westjet cut their YHZ-CDG and Icelandair cut their YHZ-KEF for the same reasons.
The sad fact is that AC just doesn't have spare TATL capable aircraft to run these routes with so many MAX birds grounded. They've made the business decision that these are the best routes to cut given the fleet constraints. Yes, it stinks for my fellow East Coast folks, but we are used to sucking hind "nipple" (trying to use FT appropriate language). Westjet cut their YHZ-CDG and Icelandair cut their YHZ-KEF for the same reasons.
#803
Join Date: Jan 2013
Location: YYZ
Posts: 365
I don't know about their soft product, but the hard product doesn't look worse than the 7M8. Click at the middle dot for interior photos:
https://www.oai.aero/fleet?plane=B767-200ER
https://www.oai.aero/fleet?plane=B767-200ER
#804
Join Date: Apr 2011
Location: CHI
Programs: UA 1K, MR Titanium, IHG Gold, National Exec
Posts: 3,840
Speaking up for the east coast of Canada, I do wonder why AC continue to neglect Halifax and St John's!
I realise that the Max played a big role in uniting both cities with the UK, Ireland and France in the last year or so, but I remember the days of a A319 flying St John's to London and a 767 from Halifax either direct or via St john's.
And now - nothing!!
Last night, you could watch WestJet fly Halifax to Dublin, Glasgow and Heathrow on 737-700's.
I realise AC don't have 737-700s, but they do have 767s, 319 and 321 aircraft and yet, they ignore Newfoundland and Nova Scotia. As a national carrier, surely they have to serve the whole country and not the duopoly routes within Canada where they can charge what they like, For a PAX from either city to fly to Europe to continue to be forced to fly via YUL or YYZ for around 10 hours plus seems to place commercial value (albeit with a reduced fleet) over the responsibilities of a national carrier.
One aircraft in the entire fleet would serve both Halifax and St John's and the UK - something WestJet seem to respect.
I realise that the Max played a big role in uniting both cities with the UK, Ireland and France in the last year or so, but I remember the days of a A319 flying St John's to London and a 767 from Halifax either direct or via St john's.
And now - nothing!!
Last night, you could watch WestJet fly Halifax to Dublin, Glasgow and Heathrow on 737-700's.
I realise AC don't have 737-700s, but they do have 767s, 319 and 321 aircraft and yet, they ignore Newfoundland and Nova Scotia. As a national carrier, surely they have to serve the whole country and not the duopoly routes within Canada where they can charge what they like, For a PAX from either city to fly to Europe to continue to be forced to fly via YUL or YYZ for around 10 hours plus seems to place commercial value (albeit with a reduced fleet) over the responsibilities of a national carrier.
One aircraft in the entire fleet would serve both Halifax and St John's and the UK - something WestJet seem to respect.
#805
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Halifax
Programs: AC SE100K, Marriott Lifetime Platinum Elite. NEXUS
Posts: 4,527
Nope. Where did you get that idea?
#806
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Join Date: May 2002
Location: YEG
Programs: HH Silver
Posts: 56,417
Folks, a number of posts have been deleted as for some reason several members thought this was the place to discuss far ranging aviation topics such as international bi-laterals and Middle Eastern airlines however contrary to popular belief this thread is intended to discuss matters only relating to the 737 Max ban on AC so let's please focus on that topic and that topic only.
tcook052
AC forum moderator
tcook052
AC forum moderator
#807
Join Date: Mar 2016
Programs: AC SE
Posts: 1,497
Yes, please, though Id like data on the economy product as well. If someone could just sit in every seat and let me know which to pursue and which to avoid, that would be grand
#808
Join Date: Jun 2018
Location: YYC
Programs: United 1K Hilton Diamond
Posts: 21
YYC-YXU direct
Did these get axed in wake of the 737max deal?
Can't find these anywhere.
https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/2019-02-21-Air-Canada-to-Launch-Seasonal-Flights-Between-Calgary-and-London-Ontario
Can't find these anywhere.
https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/2019-02-21-Air-Canada-to-Launch-Seasonal-Flights-Between-Calgary-and-London-Ontario
#809
Join Date: Mar 2001
Location: Toronto, ON
Programs: AC 75K
Posts: 6,352
Yes. Full list is accessible from this page under "What is Air Canada doing to reschedule customers?"
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...e-closure.html
https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...e-closure.html
#810
Join Date: Jun 2008
Location: YYC, Canada
Programs: AC 35k
Posts: 1,883
Did these get axed in wake of the 737max deal?
Can't find these anywhere.
https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/2019...London-Ontario
Can't find these anywhere.
https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/2019...London-Ontario