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Originally Posted by https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/home/book/travel-news-and-updates/2019/737-airspace-closure.html
If you currently have a reservation for a flight between now and September 02, 2019 that was scheduled to be operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.
Read below for more details.

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May 29, 2019
If you are travelling within the next 72 hours, call:

1-833-354-5963

If you booked through a Travel Agency, please call them for immediate assistance
In compliance with Transport Canada's safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations, Air Canada has grounded its 24 737 MAX aircraft until further notice.Air Canada is now updating its May, June and July schedule to further optimize its fleet and re-accommodate customers. Because the timeline for the return to service of the 737 Max is unknown, for planning purposes and to provide customers certainty for booking and travel, Air Canada is removing all 737 MAX aircraft from its schedule until at least September 02, 2019. A summary of schedule changes for April is posted below in the following question and answer: "What is Air Canada doing to reschedule customers?". Additional schedule changes will be posted as warranted.
  • Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers.
  • We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible.
  • Given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada Call Centres.
  • If you are travelling within the next 72 hours, please call the number at the top of this page.
  • If you booked through a Travel Agent, you may contact them directly for assistance.
We appreciate our customers' patience as we work to get everyone on their way.

If you'd like to make other plansIf you currently have a reservation for a flight between now and September 02, 2019 that was scheduled to be operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.If you are impacted by this policy, you may contact Air Canada Reservations (1-888-247-2262). If you are travelling in the next 72 hours, please call Air Canada Reservations number at the top of this notice. If you purchased your ticket with AeroplanExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines., or Air Canada Vacations or your travel agent, please contact them directly.

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March 19, 2019

UPDATED - INFORMATION ON IMPACTED ROUTES


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UPDATED - Air Canada Responds to Transport Canada's Closure of Canadian Airspace to the Boeing 737 MAX Aircraft

https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...e-closure.html

March 19, 2019

If you are travelling within the next 72 hours, call:

1-833-354-5963

If you booked through a Travel Agency, please call them for immediate assistance

In compliance with Transport Canada’s safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations, Air Canada has grounded its 24 737 MAX aircraft until further notice.

Air Canada is now updating its April and May schedule to further optimize its fleet and re-accommodate customers. Because the timeline for the return to service of the 737 Max is unknown, for planning purposes and to provide customers certainty for booking and travel, Air Canada is removing all 737 MAX aircraft from its schedule until at least July 1, 2019. A summary of schedule changes for April is posted below in the following question and answer: “What is Air Canada doing to reschedule customers?”. Additional schedule changes will be posted as warranted.
  • Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers.
  • We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible.
  • Given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada Call Centres.
  • If you are travelling within the next 72 hours, please call the number at the top of this page.
  • If you booked through a Travel Agent, you may contact them directly for assistance.
We appreciate our customers' patience as we work to get everyone on their way.

If you'd like to make other plans

If you currently have a reservation for a flight that was scheduled to be operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.

If you are impacted by this policy, you may contact Air Canada Reservations (1-888-247-2262). If you are travelling in the next 72 hours, please call Air Canada Reservations number at the top of this notice.

If you purchased your ticket with Aeroplan, or Air Canada Vacations or your travel agent, please contact them directly.


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March 13, 2019

Air Canada confirmed today that it will comply immediately with Transport Canada's safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations until further notice.

Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers. We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible. Given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada Call Centres. Priority will be given to customers travelling within the next 72 hours. We appreciate our customers' patience.

If you'd like to know what type of aircraft you are flying on, simply retrieve your booking from the My Bookings tab, then click on the 'Details' link in the Flight Details section. We also advise you to check the status of your flight before heading to the airport.

We fully support Transport Canada's decision and will continue to work with them towards a resolution of this situation as soon as possible.

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If you currently have a reservation for a flight operated by a Boeing 737 MAX aircraft, we've implemented a policy that makes it possible for you to make voluntary changes to your itinerary within three (3) weeks of your original travel dates.

If you are impacted by this policy, you may contact Air Canada Reservations (1-888-247-2262).

If you purchased your ticket with AeroplanExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines., or Air Canada Vacations or your Travel agent, please contact them directly Some questions you may have are below with our answers, but if you can't find what you need, contact us at 1-888-247-2262, or reach out to us on on FacebookExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines. or TwitterExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines..

How many Boeing 737 MAX aircraft does Air Canada have?
Air Canada has a fleet of 24 Boeing 737 MAX-8 aircraft, which have been in operation since 2017. We have a total fleet of 400 aircraft (including 24 737MAX), comprising Air Canada mainline, Air Canada Rouge and Air Canada Express aircraft.

Where do the Boeing 737 MAX aircraft fly to?
These aircraft operate flights across North America, to Mexico, the Caribbean, Hawaii, as well as from Atlantic Canada to London Heathrow.

How many Boeing 737 MAX flights are there each day, and how many passengers are affected?
We typically operate approximately 75 Boeing 737 MAX flights daily out of a total schedule of approximately 1,600 daily flights system-wide, representing less than six percent of our total flying.

We have a total fleet of 400 aircraft (including 24 Boeing 737 MAX), comprising Air Canada mainline, Air Canada Rouge and Air Canada Express aircraft.

What is Air Canada doing to reschedule customers?
We are making adjustments to our schedule to minimize the disruption to customers as much as possible, by optimizing the deployment of the rest of our fleet and looking at alternative options, including accommodating customers on other airlines.

As an example of some of our adjustments to Boeing 737 MAX flights cancelled, we have re-scheduled widebody aircraft to serve Hawaii starting today, March 13. Some flights will operate as scheduled with mainline or Air Canada Rouge aircraft, such as on Montreal-Martinique and Montreal-Guadeloupe. Other routes, notably Halifax-London and St. John's-London are cancelled in the short term, with customers being re-routed through our Montreal and Toronto hubs.

What should I do right now?
As changes are finalized in our flight schedule, customers whose flight times or flight numbers have changed can expect to receive an email detailing their updated itinerary. This information is also available in My Bookings on the Air Canada App.

If you are travelling soon, you can also contact us or your travel agent. Please understand that priority is being given to customers travelling within the next 72 hours.

We have also put in place a rebooking policy, space permitting, and without additional fees for affected customers. Given the magnitude of our Boeing 737 MAX operations, which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada's Call Centres.

Where can I go to for more information?
If you would like to know what type of aircraft you are flying on, simply retrieve your booking from the My Bookings tab, then click on the 'Details' link in the Flight Details section.

If you are travelling soon, you can contact us, reach out to our social media teams on FacebookExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines. or TwitterExternal site which may not meet accessibility guidelines., or call your travel agent.

We also advise you to check the status of your flight before going to the airport.

We thank all of our customers for their patience.

Will Air Canada cover my out-of-pocket expenses such as additional accommodation costs that I may incur as a result of these disruptions?
Our normal protocol for irregular events which are out of our control is in effect. We are regrettably unable to reimburse for such expenses.



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MONTREAL, March 13, 2019 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada confirmed today that it will comply immediately with Transport Canada's safety notice closing Canadian airspace to Boeing 737 MAX aircraft operations until further notice.

Air Canada's cancellation and rebooking policies are in place with full fee waiver for affected customers. We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible but given the magnitude of our 737 MAX operations which on average carry nine to twelve thousand customers per day, customers can expect delays in rebooking and in reaching Air Canada call centres and we appreciate our customers' patience.

Customers are further advised to check the status of their flight on aircanada.com prior to going to the airport.

We fully support this decision and will continue to work with Transport Canada towards resolution of this situation as soon as possible.


SOURCE Air Canada

For further information: Isabelle Arthur (Montréal), [email protected], 514 422-5788; Peter Fitzpatrick (Toronto), [email protected], 416 263-5576; Angela Mah (Vancouver), [email protected], 604 270-5741; Internet: aircanada.com

https://aircanada.mediaroom.com/2019...7-MAX-Aircraft




https://www.aircanada.com/ca/en/aco/...to-london.html

Originally Posted by ac.com
Information on Air Canada Halifax-London and St. John’s-London service

March 12, 2019

Due to the UK's Civil Aviation Authority banning all Boeing 737 Max aircraft operations in the U.K. Air Canada has cancelled the following flights:

AC 860 Halifax London-Heathrow on March 12
AC861 London-Halifax on March 13
AC822 St. John’s-London on March 13
AC823London-St. John’s on March 14

We are working to rebook impacted customers as soon as possible through our Montreal, Toronto and Ottawa hubs.

Affected customers may contact Air Canada Reservations to change their flights to another date free of charge.

As well, due to anticipated call volumes, customers can expect delays reaching Air Canada call centres, so we appreciate our customers’ patience.

Air Canada will provide updates as more information becomes available.
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 5:05 pm
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Originally Posted by marke190
Check out the Wiki at the top of the main AC 737MAX thread but in short:

YYT/YHZ-LHR
YUL-YYC/YVR/LAX/SFO
YYZ-YYT/YHZ/YUL/YYC/YEG/YVR/LAX/SFO/SNN
YYZ-Caribbean
YVR-Hawaii
YUL-KEF/BOD (summer)

I may be missing a few routes
I've taken YVR to YYC on it also
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Originally Posted by CZAMFlyer
Yep, there are only so many suitable Canadian airports willing or able to accommodate them. Fees may also play a role in the storage decisions.
cant they just go the large but nearly unused airports. Something like Gander?
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 5:07 pm
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Originally Posted by FlyerGoldII
Can someone tell me what routes has AC used the B737max (some of which are alluded to in previous posts).
I want to know what routes I am flying or I may fly in the next few months will be affected.

PS-I did a few weeks ago take the B737 max on the LAX-YUL route (on the way to YOW).
Losing 25 aircraft will trigger changes all across the network. I wouldn't be surprised that YHZ-YYZ will not only lose the MAX, but a 320 or two, increasing frequently +2/3 daily, but with with E70S, to free the Airbuses for higher profile routes.
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Originally Posted by marke190
Check out the Wiki at the top of the main AC 737MAX thread but in short:

YYT/YHZ-LHR
YUL-YYC/YVR/LAX/SFO
YYZ-YYT/YHZ/YUL/YYC/YEG/YVR/LAX/SFO/SNN
YYZ-Caribbean
YVR-Hawaii
YUL-KEF/BOD (summer)

I may be missing a few routes
YYZ-PBI
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 5:08 pm
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Originally Posted by Eternity000

cant they just go the large but nearly unused airports. Something like Gander?
I would think the desert climate is better for longer periods and can anyone guess how long they are being parked?
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 5:16 pm
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Originally Posted by CZAMFlyer
Yep, there are only so many suitable Canadian airports willing or able to accommodate them. Fees may also play a role in the storage decisions.
Airports should just send their bills direct to Boeing. They will be the ones paying the storage fee in the end.
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 5:20 pm
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Originally Posted by 24left
I would think the desert climate is better for longer periods and can anyone guess how long they are being parked?
Guessing is free!

I don't know the resting checklist for an aircraft, but I don't think a desert is going to help all that much if you don't go and pull the batteries, drain the oil and put it up on blocks. For 2-3 months, that seems like a lot of effort. Longer than that, Air Canada would send their MAXes to rainy Seattle, not New Mexico.

Halifax presumably has slightly better maintenance facilities than Gander. - mainline has a hanger, for what thats worth. Also, while Gander may be empty, RCAF or NATO could well have right of first refusal for every square inch of the tarmac or something silly like that.
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 5:35 pm
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Cancellations hit YVR as Canada grounds Boeing 737 Max 8

"Many passengers express relief at government decision to ban aircraft"

CBC News · Posted: Mar 13, 2019 12:29 PM PT Last Updated: 2 hours ago

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" Passengers at Vancouver International Airport who disembarked from one of the last Boeing 737 Max 8 flights before a ban on the jet came into force Wednesday morning were thankful to have arrived safely.

"Wow. Had I known [what aircraft it was], I probably wouldn't have flown," said Nabil Valiulla, one of the passengers from the Toronto flight.

"I just found about it, just as I got out," said another, Nelson Belchiur. "I did not need to know that ... I would have preferred not having been on it, to be honest."

https://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/briti...-max-1.5054714


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Old Mar 13, 2019, 5:41 pm
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I wouldn't have liked to be around YVR when people got word that all the Hawaii flights were cancelled. IIRC AC's Hawaii ops from YVR are 100% 7M8.
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Originally Posted by eigenvector
I wouldn't have liked to be around YVR when people got word that all the Hawaii flights were cancelled. IIRC AC's Hawaii ops from YVR are 100% 7M8.
YVR-OGG flight aircraft was switch to a 777. Major upgrade for J pax.
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Old Mar 13, 2019, 5:47 pm
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Originally Posted by 5mm
YVR-OGG flight aircraft was switch to a 777. Major upgrade for J pax.
It's actually a 789 now till the end of the week- still a huge upgrade!

The 2 daily YVR-HNL flights seem to be consolidated to a 77W for the time being.
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I'm quite curious what's going to happen with YUL-SFO (just because those are my two homes haha). This is an entirely MAX route. I wouldn't be surprised if AC just cancels the route and pushes everyone thru YYZ for the duration of the grounding (perhaps with an extra widebody on YYZ-SFO)
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All of this during Spring Break cannot be fun for some Kettle families.

I'm selfishly glad I'm not flying this week.
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Here’s how Canadian airlines are dealing with the grounding of Boeing 737 MAX aircraft

March 13, 2019 6:30 pm - Global News

https://globalnews.ca/news/5053249/c...oeing-737-max/


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Air Canada says it has 24 Boeing 737 MAX aircraft in its total fleet of 400 aircraft.

Around 75 737 MAX flights are operated daily, representing less than six per cent of Air Canada’s approximately 1,600 daily flights.

As a result, the airline says that the “vast majority” of its flights are operating as per their normal schedule.

However, Air Canada says that its 737 MAX flights carry between 9,000 and 12,000 passengers a day, so customers can expect delays in re-booking and reaching customer service.

“We are making adjustments to our schedule to minimize the disruption to customers as much as possible, by optimizing the deployment of the rest of our fleet and looking at alternative options, including accommodating customers on other airlines,” an Air Canada spokesperson said.".........
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Originally Posted by Bohemian1
All of this during Spring Break cannot be fun for some Kettle families.

I'm selfishly glad I'm not flying this week.
There must be something about March Break and travel disruptions. Jetsgo ceased business during March Break in 2005.
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