What will happen to the 767-300ER routes?
Jul 8, 2019, 6:43 pm
#16
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It has been said that AC 9/10 will be seasonal routes on 763 metals (I was told by the YYC concierge over a week ago on a departing flight that AC 9/10 would only be seasonal routes on 763). I don’t want to fly 763s, so no way I will support their decision on 763 aircrafts.
The 763s are still a nice ride in Y, especially with the two abreast seating.
Jul 8, 2019, 8:36 pm
#17
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As as for the Y seats, 7 years ago I routinely do TPAC Y in them, and it was bearable.
Jul 9, 2019, 3:05 am
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Jul 9, 2019, 11:33 pm
#20
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AC getting some delivery slots for the A321 LR with its Air Transit purchase.
Jul 10, 2019, 3:49 am
#21
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Better solution would be to follow the lead of TAP Air Portugal. Take some of the A321 LR configure them with proper international business class. TAP is doing it between Portugal and Brazil. AC can do it between Ottawa and Europe.
AC getting some delivery slots for the A321 LR with its Air Transit purchase.
AC getting some delivery slots for the A321 LR with its Air Transit purchase.
Jul 10, 2019, 10:52 am
#22
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The 767's left at mainline are going to time out from a cycles and miles perspective. They are going to the desert once they are done at mainline. My last transatlantic flight on one of them (to Dublin in January) made it pretty clear they are done. Duct tape and such in all sorts of places holding things together.
Jul 10, 2019, 11:00 am
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The 767's left at mainline are going to time out from a cycles and miles perspective. They are going to the desert once they are done at mainline. My last transatlantic flight on one of them (to Dublin in January) made it pretty clear they are done. Duct tape and such in all sorts of places holding things together.
At lest that seemed to be the plan. But what if the Max gets further delayed? Smart money is now on back some time next year.
Jul 10, 2019, 11:41 am
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I meant that they aren't going to Rouge. I don't disagree that they may be extended to cover for the Max. AC was supposed to have 36 Max's in service by now - that is a lot of flying that needs to be covered. It seems unlikely that the Max will be back flying this year. I suspect Airbuses that were also meant to be withdrawn (and potentially the jungle jets) will remain longer.
Jul 10, 2019, 4:01 pm
#25
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I know this isn't a rouge thread but if those 767 are simply going to the desert and retirement than might I ask what will replace the tired and old 763 in use on the mostly international rouge lines?
Jul 10, 2019, 4:15 pm
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Who knows - nothing in the short term. Mid-term could be used A330’s (of which there are many coming off lease at many carriers) and possibly more A321’s (including possibly A321LR/XLR. Long-term maybe the 797 (if Boeing builds it - they have their hands full atm). Have a feeling we’ve got 5 more years of flying them.
Jul 11, 2019, 5:07 pm
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Who knows - nothing in the short term. Mid-term could be used A330’s (of which there are many coming off lease at many carriers) and possibly more A321’s (including possibly A321LR/XLR. Long-term maybe the 797 (if Boeing builds it - they have their hands full atm). Have a feeling we’ve got 5 more years of flying them.
It looks like it is the mainline 763s that are meant to go to the desert; AC psecifically picked the oder ones to stay at the mainline. The Rouge ones are newer and presumably they were always here to stay longer.
Jul 11, 2019, 5:18 pm
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I wonder if they are reaching their maximum number of cycles, or whether they just have D-checks coming up. If it's the D-checks, perhaps given the aircraft shortage and the real possibility of passing the cost onto Boeing, AC might decide to keep them longer. (Just wondering here ... I have no idea.)
Jul 11, 2019, 6:14 pm
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I wonder if they are reaching their maximum number of cycles, or whether they just have D-checks coming up. If it's the D-checks, perhaps given the aircraft shortage and the real possibility of passing the cost onto Boeing, AC might decide to keep them longer. (Just wondering here ... I have no idea.)
Jul 11, 2019, 7:05 pm
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Highly doubt AC would complete D-Checks on an aircraft that old. D-Check basically requires the aircraft be taken apart and put back together. It would make no sense to do that for 6 months of flying. It's more likely they would wet-lease (as they have done with Qatar) or have Rouge fill in (as they have done with many of the transcons between YYC/YEG and YYZ).