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Background
It is intended that this wiki will be updated periodically using new fleet plans from future quarterly disclosures, presentations or press releases by AC, or information from other sources (e.g. Planespotters), and that anyone is free to update the wiki. The data in the wiki is intended to be as up-to-date as possible.
Fleet Evolution Over Time
This spreadsheet contains data on AC's fleet back to 2005, and includes numerous charts that detail the evolution of various types in the fleet from then until the present.
Overview of Current Fleet and Future Plans
Mainline Widebody Fleet
Boeing 777-300ER (77W)
Current: 19
Future plans: no changes planned
Boeing 777-200LR (77L)
Current: 6
Future plans: no changes planned
Boeing 787-10 (781)
Current: 0
Future plans: 18 aircraft to be delivered between Q4 of 2025 and Q1 of 2027; options for a further 12 aircraft
Boeing 787-9 (789)
Current: 31
Future plans: +1 in 2024
Boeing 787-8 (788)
Current: 8
Future plans: no changes planned
Airbus A330-300 (333)
Current: 18
Future plans: +2 in 2024
Mainline Narrowbody Fleet
AC has announced plans to acquire 30 A321 XLRs, with deliveries from 2025 to 2027, plus options for 15 additional aircraft with deliveries from 2027 to 2030. See this thread
Airbus A321 (321)
Current: 16
Future plans: no changes planned
Airbus A320 (320)
Current: 18 (including 4 configured for Jetz)
Future plans: +3 in 2024
Airbus A319 (319)
Current: 7
Future plans: -2 in 2024
Boeing 737-8 (7M8)
Current: 40
Future plans: +5 in 2025
AC holds purchase options for 10 additional aircraft (7M7, 7M8, or 7M9).
Airbus A220-300 (223)
Current: 33
Future plans: +2 in 2024, +7 in 2025, further 18 aircraft on order
AC holds options for 15 additional aircraft.
rouge Narrowbody Fleet
Airbus A321 (321)
Current: 17
Future plans: no changes planned
Airbus A320 (320)
Current: 5
Future plans: no changes planned
Airbus A319 (319)
Current: 18
Future plans: no changes planned
Express Fleet
All regional aircraft are operated by Jazz, with the exception of a small number of DH4s operated by PAL Airlines in Atlantic Canada.
Embraer 175 (E75)
Current: 25
Future plans: no changes planned
Bombardier CRJ-900 (CR9)
Current: 35
Future plans: no changes planned
Bombardier CRJ-200 (CRJ)
Current: 15
Future plans: -7 in 2024
Bombardier Q400 (DH4)
Current: 43
Future plans: no changes planned
The last of the DH3 fleet was retired in early 2022.
AC has announced plans to acquire 30 Heart ES-30 hybrid regional aircraft, with entry in to service in 2028. See this thread
Cargo Fleet
Boeing 767-300F
Current: 8
Future plans: +1 in 2024, +1 in 2025
Sources
Information above is based primarily on the fleet plan in Air Canada's 2023 Q4 MD&A, as of February 16, 2024, with updates based on information from planespotters.net, press releases, and other sources.
It is intended that this wiki will be updated periodically using new fleet plans from future quarterly disclosures, presentations or press releases by AC, or information from other sources (e.g. Planespotters), and that anyone is free to update the wiki. The data in the wiki is intended to be as up-to-date as possible.
Fleet Evolution Over Time
This spreadsheet contains data on AC's fleet back to 2005, and includes numerous charts that detail the evolution of various types in the fleet from then until the present.
Overview of Current Fleet and Future Plans
Mainline Widebody Fleet
Boeing 777-300ER (77W)
Current: 19
Future plans: no changes planned
Boeing 777-200LR (77L)
Current: 6
Future plans: no changes planned
Boeing 787-10 (781)
Current: 0
Future plans: 18 aircraft to be delivered between Q4 of 2025 and Q1 of 2027; options for a further 12 aircraft
Boeing 787-9 (789)
Current: 31
Future plans: +1 in 2024
Boeing 787-8 (788)
Current: 8
Future plans: no changes planned
Airbus A330-300 (333)
Current: 18
Future plans: +2 in 2024
Mainline Narrowbody Fleet
AC has announced plans to acquire 30 A321 XLRs, with deliveries from 2025 to 2027, plus options for 15 additional aircraft with deliveries from 2027 to 2030. See this thread
Airbus A321 (321)
Current: 16
Future plans: no changes planned
Airbus A320 (320)
Current: 18 (including 4 configured for Jetz)
Future plans: +3 in 2024
Airbus A319 (319)
Current: 7
Future plans: -2 in 2024
Boeing 737-8 (7M8)
Current: 40
Future plans: +5 in 2025
AC holds purchase options for 10 additional aircraft (7M7, 7M8, or 7M9).
Airbus A220-300 (223)
Current: 33
Future plans: +2 in 2024, +7 in 2025, further 18 aircraft on order
AC holds options for 15 additional aircraft.
rouge Narrowbody Fleet
Airbus A321 (321)
Current: 17
Future plans: no changes planned
Airbus A320 (320)
Current: 5
Future plans: no changes planned
Airbus A319 (319)
Current: 18
Future plans: no changes planned
Express Fleet
All regional aircraft are operated by Jazz, with the exception of a small number of DH4s operated by PAL Airlines in Atlantic Canada.
Embraer 175 (E75)
Current: 25
Future plans: no changes planned
Bombardier CRJ-900 (CR9)
Current: 35
Future plans: no changes planned
Bombardier CRJ-200 (CRJ)
Current: 15
Future plans: -7 in 2024
Bombardier Q400 (DH4)
Current: 43
Future plans: no changes planned
The last of the DH3 fleet was retired in early 2022.
AC has announced plans to acquire 30 Heart ES-30 hybrid regional aircraft, with entry in to service in 2028. See this thread
Cargo Fleet
Boeing 767-300F
Current: 8
Future plans: +1 in 2024, +1 in 2025
Sources
Information above is based primarily on the fleet plan in Air Canada's 2023 Q4 MD&A, as of February 16, 2024, with updates based on information from planespotters.net, press releases, and other sources.
Air Canada Master Fleet Changes Thread
#421
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That's fair, but really only Sydney and Delhi actually need the range from the 787-9, and 3 could be enough to cover those flights. The remaining routes that 200LR flies (YYZ-YVR, YYC, LAX, LHR, AMS, FRA, and MUCH) could be filled by the 220's or 321XLR's that AC also has on order, or other aircraft currently in the fleet that are feed up by those new aircraft.
Just being the devil's advocate here, I don't honestly believe that this is happening.
Just being the devil's advocate here, I don't honestly believe that this is happening.
#423
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Wiki updated based on today's MD&A. Not surprising to see the incremental addition of A330's. The A321's at Rouge are a bit more interesting - wonder where the 5 aircraft are coming from?
#424
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Posts: 215
Remember back when people are saying Air Canada is going all Boeing and the MAX was the end of the world.
The 777 and 787 are going to eliminate the entire A330/340 fleet
The Airbus fleet is slowly creeping back up in size.
Wonder where the new A330 will be coming from this time.
Can CX be a possibility? They have been struggling for a while and have a huge fleet of A330 after KA got shut down.
The 777 and 787 are going to eliminate the entire A330/340 fleet
The Airbus fleet is slowly creeping back up in size.
Wonder where the new A330 will be coming from this time.
Can CX be a possibility? They have been struggling for a while and have a huge fleet of A330 after KA got shut down.
#425
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Remember back when people are saying Air Canada is going all Boeing and the MAX was the end of the world.
The 777 and 787 are going to eliminate the entire A330/340 fleet
The Airbus fleet is slowly creeping back up in size.
Wonder where the new A330 will be coming from this time.
Can CX be a possibility? They have been struggling for a while and have a huge fleet of A330 after KA got shut down.
The 777 and 787 are going to eliminate the entire A330/340 fleet
The Airbus fleet is slowly creeping back up in size.
Wonder where the new A330 will be coming from this time.
Can CX be a possibility? They have been struggling for a while and have a huge fleet of A330 after KA got shut down.
#426
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#427
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Indeed. The one that AC backed out on in 2020 is even still sitting around VCV.
One of the Rouge A321 additions is a former EVA bird:
https://www.planespotters.net/airfra...airways/rm5xvo
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#428
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For anyone who might still have harboured thoughts that the AI 77Ls might have been coming from AC, it was confirmed in the Indian press shortly after we were last discussing it here that the frames are indeed coming from DL. And of course this week's quarterly update confirmed no plans for them to exit the fleet any time soon.
#429
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Anyone else notice that 2 of the oldest A320's - FKOJ and FNVV - which are both right around 30 years old - have been converted to 66 J which I assume means they are going to doing some charter flying for Jetz. I would guess that the leases were up on the A319's so they chose to convert aircraft that are under better lease terms? I can't imagine the lease cost on a 30 year old A320 is very high. AC sure is getting the maximum life out of the A320 fleet.
#430
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: YOW
Posts: 215
The upcoming C-GYFM has been spotted in AC Rouge Livery at TPE.
Last seen a few days ago flying around Taiwan.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...16201#2e1a525f
Still in Taiwanese Registration, can this be an acceptance / test flight?
It might arrive pretty soon just in time for the winter season.
Last seen a few days ago flying around Taiwan.
https://www.flightradar24.com/data/a...16201#2e1a525f
Still in Taiwanese Registration, can this be an acceptance / test flight?
It might arrive pretty soon just in time for the winter season.
#431
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The only reason those 333s were flying in the old SQ configuration to begin with was the capacity was needed due to the MAX grounding at the time. Shouldn’t happen this time.
#432
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Anyone else notice that 2 of the oldest A320's - FKOJ and FNVV - which are both right around 30 years old - have been converted to 66 J which I assume means they are going to doing some charter flying for Jetz. I would guess that the leases were up on the A319's so they chose to convert aircraft that are under better lease terms? I can't imagine the lease cost on a 30 year old A320 is very high. AC sure is getting the maximum life out of the A320 fleet.
Flying those charter put very few cycles to the frame, potentially give them a few more years of life at very low capital cost.
Delta's oldest 757s are doing exactly that too.
I believe the 2 current Jetz A319 are owned outright and paid off by Air Canada. They probably still worth something on the used or spare parts market, more so than the A320, hence the switch.
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2023 sees them start to have new wifi installed. Maybe then? https://www.aviationtoday.com/2022/0...-connectivity/
#435
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That article is about the XLR, which AC has none of.
Edit: Nevermind, the article also mentions adding the wifi to the existing fleet.
Edit: Nevermind, the article also mentions adding the wifi to the existing fleet.
Last edited by canadiancow; Dec 16, 2022 at 10:54 am