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It is intended that this wiki will be updated periodically using new fleet plans from future quarterly disclosures, presentations or press releases by AC, or information from other sources (e.g. Planespotters), and that anyone is free to update the wiki. The data in the wiki is intended to be as up-to-date as possible.


Fleet Evolution Over Time

This spreadsheet contains data on AC's fleet back to 2005, and includes numerous charts that detail the evolution of various types in the fleet from then until the present.


Overview of Current Fleet and Future Plans

Mainline Widebody Fleet

Boeing 777-300ER (77W)
Current: 19
Future plans: no changes planned

Boeing 777-200LR (77L)
Current: 6
Future plans: no changes planned

Boeing 787-10 (781)
Current: 0
Future plans: 18 aircraft to be delivered between Q4 of 2025 and Q1 of 2027; options for a further 12 aircraft

Boeing 787-9 (789)
Current: 31
Future plans: +1 in 2024

Boeing 787-8 (788)
Current: 8
Future plans: no changes planned

Airbus A330-300 (333)
Current: 18
Future plans: +2 in 2024

Mainline Narrowbody Fleet

AC has announced plans to acquire 30 A321 XLRs, with deliveries from 2025 to 2027, plus options for 15 additional aircraft with deliveries from 2027 to 2030. See this thread

Airbus A321 (321)
Current: 16
Future plans: no changes planned

Airbus A320 (320)
Current: 18 (including 4 configured for Jetz)
Future plans: +3 in 2024

Airbus A319 (319)
Current: 7
Future plans: -2 in 2024

Boeing 737-8 (7M8)
Current: 40
Future plans: +5 in 2025
AC holds purchase options for 10 additional aircraft (7M7, 7M8, or 7M9).

Airbus A220-300 (223)
Current: 33
Future plans: +2 in 2024, +7 in 2025, further 18 aircraft on order
AC holds options for 15 additional aircraft.

rouge Narrowbody Fleet

Airbus A321 (321)
Current: 17
Future plans: no changes planned

Airbus A320 (320)
Current: 5
Future plans: no changes planned

Airbus A319 (319)
Current: 18
Future plans: no changes planned

Express Fleet

All regional aircraft are operated by Jazz, with the exception of a small number of DH4s operated by PAL Airlines in Atlantic Canada.

Embraer 175 (E75)
Current: 25
Future plans: no changes planned

Bombardier CRJ-900 (CR9)
Current: 35
Future plans: no changes planned

Bombardier CRJ-200 (CRJ)
Current: 15
Future plans: -7 in 2024

Bombardier Q400 (DH4)
Current: 43
Future plans: no changes planned

The last of the DH3 fleet was retired in early 2022.

AC has announced plans to acquire 30 Heart ES-30 hybrid regional aircraft, with entry in to service in 2028. See this thread

Cargo Fleet

Boeing 767-300F
Current: 8
Future plans: +1 in 2024, +1 in 2025

Sources

Information above is based primarily on the fleet plan in Air Canada's 2023 Q4 MD&A, as of February 16, 2024, with updates based on information from planespotters.net, press releases, and other sources.
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Old Feb 14, 2021, 3:11 am
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Originally Posted by Adam Smith
Eh? The PY and Y cabins are the same on both versions of the 77W.
Y are definitely the same across both versions of the 77W. For PY I somewhat recall reading somewhere (maybe the PY thread - I will try to find it tomorrow) that the PY seats on the HD version have some minor differences.

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We really don't know. AC has said they plan to retire all of the 319s at some point. Maybe they'll keep the 3 Jetz ones around for this hockey season and then ditch them for 7M8s or 223s. Or maybe they'll be around for years.
They recently reconfigured an additional mainline A319 fin (FIN261) into the Jetz configuration too. My guess is these 4 might stay for awhile.
https://www.planespotters.net/airline/Air-Canada-Jetz

Originally Posted by codfather
Have all the 77Ws been refurbished yet? As in, have they fixed all the issues with deflategate?
Both the 777 and 787 are getting the J seat cushion refurbished during a heavy visit from what I gather. For the mean time, they started loading seat cushions in case a J seat is to deflate in-flight and the reset does not work.
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Old Feb 14, 2021, 7:04 am
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Originally Posted by etkuo
Y are definitely the same across both versions of the 77W. For PY I somewhat recall reading somewhere (maybe the PY thread - I will try to find it tomorrow) that the PY seats on the HD version have some minor differences........
IIRC, there was discussion in the 777 refurb thread and photos were posted of the different PE/PY seats on the older fins. We know the newer Fins 748 and 749 were factory-delivered with the new cabins. I recall flying brand new Fin 749 from HKG. Loved that new plane smell. Took this photo of her before boarding in HKG Oct 1 2016




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I scrolled through the 777 thread and it seems some discussion of the difference in seating (pearicularly PE/PY refurb or not on some of the HD fins starts around this page and a bit later on are photos form 2017 of Fin 743
Air Canada plans to refurbish 18 of its 777
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Old Feb 14, 2021, 7:10 am
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Originally Posted by etkuo
Y are definitely the same across both versions of the 77W. For PY I somewhat recall reading somewhere (maybe the PY thread - I will try to find it tomorrow) that the PY seats on the HD version have some minor differences.
IIRC some of the PY seats have lower resolution AVOD screens.
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Old Feb 14, 2021, 7:29 am
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Originally Posted by 24left
IIRC, there was discussion in the 777 refurb thread and photos were posted of the different PE/PY seats on the older fins. We know the newer Fins 748 and 749 were factory-delivered with the new cabins. I recall flying brand new Fin 749 from HKG. Loved that new plane smell. Took this photo of her before boarding in HKG Oct 1 2016




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I scrolled through the 777 thread and it seems some discussion of the difference in seating (pearicularly PE/PY refurb or not on some of the HD fins starts around this page and a bit later on are photos form 2017 of Fin 743
Air Canada plans to refurbish 18 of its 777
PY in the 5 birds that were delivered with the coffin class J seats are different from PY in the rest of the fleet.

This is what it looks like on FINS 743-747 (grey headrests):



And this is the rest of the 777 fleet (red and black headrests):

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Old Feb 14, 2021, 7:57 am
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Originally Posted by EdmFlyBoi
PY in the 5 birds that were delivered with the coffin class J seats are different from PY in the rest of the fleet.
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Right.
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Old Feb 14, 2021, 6:46 pm
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Originally Posted by EdmFlyBoi
PY in the 5 birds that were delivered with the coffin class J seats are different from PY in the rest of the fleet.

This is what it looks like on FINS 743-747 (grey headrests):


Wow, the other ones (the normal ones) definitely looks better. And these ones don't even have the bulkhead between Y and PY on the window sides.

Edit to add:
So I just did some googling and came across this video:

Shows FIN747. Looks like they refurbished the headrest to be the same as the normal ones, but as @The Lev mentioned, definitely smaller screens on these seats. Also looks like bulkheads were present on this too.
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Old Feb 15, 2021, 7:45 am
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Could one 77W and the one “unaccounted for” 333 (Lion) be part of a sale to the feds for use as government jets? Haven’t seen much noise about that since they announced they were looking.
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Old Feb 15, 2021, 7:54 am
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Could one 77W and the one “unaccounted for” 333 (Lion) be part of a sale to the feds for use as government jets? Haven’t seen much noise about that since they announced they were looking.
Hard to believe the feds would buy both types of aircraft - would require too much overhead of different flight crew training, spares, etc.
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Old Feb 15, 2021, 8:15 am
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Originally Posted by YVR72
Could one 77W and the one “unaccounted for” 333 (Lion) be part of a sale to the feds for use as government jets? Haven’t seen much noise about that since they announced they were looking.
Unlikely. There are 5 aircraft needing to be replaced - 2 tankers, 2 transports, and 1 VIP. The tankers needing replacement are pretty important. It seems way more likely that some of the Transat A332’s would be converted as that’s the platform for the present MRTT. There’s also a lot of used lift on the market.
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Old Feb 15, 2021, 8:28 am
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Originally Posted by YVR72
Could one 77W and the one “unaccounted for” 333 (Lion) be part of a sale to the feds for use as government jets? Haven’t seen much noise about that since they announced they were looking.
In addition to The Lev's very good point, the 77W in particular would be a massive upgauge from the current CC-150, which is essentially an Airbus A310-300. The 333 would also be quite a bit bigger. More likely alternatives would be 763s from rouge, or perhaps 332s from TS. The CC-150s also serve missions other than VIP transport (we don't have enough VIPs to justify a big fleet), including cargo and aerial refuelling. No problem with cargo for a 777, but there are no tanker versions of the 777, while both both the 767 and 330 are used as tankers (the KC-767 and KC-46 are based off the 762, but I would think that installing the hose system would be about the same on a 763 as on a 762).
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Old Feb 24, 2021, 3:28 pm
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Are the newer 77W premium economy seats with white headrests just a headrest replacement, or are they entirely new seats?
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Originally Posted by the_a220_fan
Are the newer 77W premium economy seats with white headrests just a headrest replacement, or are they entirely new seats?
The light grey headrests are gone. I believe the general consensus is that the seat covers were replaced to bring them in line with the rest of fleet with darker headrests with the red at the sides.
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It appears that AC is keeping their A321s for now. Does anyone know if there are plans to update to interiors to match the Max and A220 fleets?
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Old Mar 25, 2021, 9:45 am
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Originally Posted by jashah
It appears that AC is keeping their A321s for now. Does anyone know if there are plans to update to interiors to match the Max and A220 fleets?
With AC having cancelled the 7M9s, and the 321s mostly being younger than the 320s and 319s, there's a decent chance they do stick around.

But since COVID, AC has stopped giving detailed forward guidance on the fleet, so we really don't know what the plans look like.

The XM interiors are definitely towards the end of their lives though, so it's reasonably likely that they'll get a new interior, if they do stick around.
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Old Apr 21, 2021, 4:10 pm
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Originally Posted by Adam Smith
Looks like AC has actually been able to ditch 4 of the 763s with lease returns:
  • C-FMLV (FIN 676) was returned to AerCap in January
  • C-FMWW (634) was returned to Crane Aircraft Partners in January
  • C-FMWQ (632) was returned to Avolon in January
  • C-FMXC (636) was returned to UMB Bank in February

So, if 7 are going to go to cargo, 14 to go...
Four more gone:
  • C-FMWU (633) to UMB Bank in February
  • C-FMLZ (677) to Bank of Utah in March
  • C-GEOQ (647) to Bank of Utah in April - looks like this one is being moved on to ShunFeng Airlines
  • C-GHPE (691) to Bank of Utah in April - looks like this one is being moved on to YTO Cargo Airlines

So that leaves 10 more (outside the 7 that will become AC freighters) to get rid of.
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