CBC - AC employees trained to dupe pax on oversold flights
Feb 15, 2019, 12:11 pm
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You have a very good point here. I would be curious to see how frequently GTE occurs versus actual denied boarding incidents. In the story, AC reports that only 1% of passengers are denied boarding which to me seems like a remarkably low number given how frequently airlines oversell their flights. If anything, I suspect denied boarding is a drop in the ocean compared to IRROPs and the number of angry passengers AC has to deal with on a day to day basis.
Overselling is very carefully managed and… accounts for less than 1% of passengers booked with only a fraction of these resulting in denied boarding.
Feb 15, 2019, 12:31 pm
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The real number was in the range of 100-500 (per publicly accessible data), and represented a slightly different metric than what the reporter claimed.
But that "over X" or "under Y" can really trip people up.
Though if the real number is "0.00001%", it's probably not a good idea to say "under 1%".
Feb 15, 2019, 12:45 pm
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What matters if how much should be allowed or is reasonable. I'd say if there were no seatbelts <1% of vehicle passengers would die annually. So why are seatbelts mandatory?
Feb 15, 2019, 2:45 pm
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Sounds familiar. I complain about AC often and go out of my way to avoid them. Unfortunately, when there are no viable alternatives every now and then I'm reminded of why I dislike them so much.
Feb 15, 2019, 2:56 pm
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Feb 15, 2019, 3:03 pm
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Feb 15, 2019, 6:24 pm
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Feb 15, 2019, 6:29 pm
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That doesn't look like a cow to me, Canadian or otherwise.
Feb 15, 2019, 6:30 pm
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Feb 15, 2019, 8:37 pm
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Feb 19, 2019, 2:16 pm
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Or will they get in trouble, if they, say, offer $201.