Possible Air Canada CSeries routes (A220)

Old Jan 15, 19, 7:37 am
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Possible Air Canada CSeries routes (A220)

https://www.flightglobal.com/news/ar...routes-455010/

main thought is much longer routes then i would have expected for these but the A220 did just get 180min ETOPS for London to NYC Flights so many seem to plan on using the range fully
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Old Jan 15, 19, 8:02 am
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Isn't it the smaller one (-100) that has the longer range? (with AC only ordering the 300)
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Old Jan 15, 19, 8:04 am
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nope 2,950 nmi / 5,460 kmon the -100 and 3,200 nmi / 5,920 kmon the -300
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Old Jan 15, 19, 8:07 am
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nope 2,950 nmi / 5,460 kmon the -100 and 3,200 nmi / 5,920 kmon the -300
Well blow me down. I totally expected the shorter model to have the range advantage as is the case for the A319.
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Old Jan 15, 19, 8:30 am
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My guess would be YOW-YVR. A320's and 321's are a little too big for the route.
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Old Jan 15, 19, 8:53 am
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AC has tried to get a DCA perimeter exemption to do DCA-YVR on an A319 in the past but was denied. Looks like they're looking at IAD for these routes this time. I feel like there's a potential market to YVR + TPAC connections. YYC also shows up as a potential route.
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Old Jan 15, 19, 12:58 pm
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YHZ-AMS, YHZ-CDG, YHZ-BRU, YHZ-FRA, YHZ-LIS, YHZ-every major airport in Europe within range.

Okay, I'll stop dreaming now.
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Old Jan 15, 19, 5:05 pm
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Interesting that YOW-YYZ is not shown (but YVR-YEG as an example). Expectation in YOW is that those would replace the E90s on a few routes, potentially including YOW-YYC and YOW-YEG. As the E90 is currently the mainstay on YOW-YYZ, it will be interesting to see whether AC upgages to A319/A320/7M8 on that route (with reduced frequencies), or downgages to CRA/E75 with increased frequencies or a mix of both. Competition on YOW-YYZ/YTZ is mainly Q400 with the very occasional WS737, so the 75-seat aircraft scenario is a unfortunately a possibility...
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Old Jan 15, 19, 6:01 pm
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Originally Posted by YOWCDNFF View Post
Interesting that YOW-YYZ is not shown (but YVR-YEG as an example). Expectation in YOW is that those would replace the E90s on a few routes, potentially including YOW-YYC and YOW-YEG. As the E90 is currently the mainstay on YOW-YYZ, it will be interesting to see whether AC upgages to A319/A320/7M8 on that route (with reduced frequencies), or downgages to CRA/E75 with increased frequencies or a mix of both. Competition on YOW-YYZ/YTZ is mainly Q400 with the very occasional WS737, so the 75-seat aircraft scenario is a unfortunately a possibility...
It seems likely that the economic benefits of the CSeries/220 occur mainly at longer ranges. Especially compared with the E75 and E90. So it would seem to make sense to schedule them on longer reasonably thin routes like YOW-YYC/YVR. Perhaps also some YUL-YYC/YEG/YVR flights. While keeping a mix of 319/320/E75 for the short eastern triangle routes. And of course the E90 out.
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Old Jan 15, 19, 8:16 pm
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I could see YHZ/YYT-LHR during the winter when the 7M8 may be too much capacity.
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Old Jan 15, 19, 8:30 pm
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The E90 fleet is redlined for one way flight to your local desert.
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Old Jan 15, 19, 8:52 pm
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Really hope they deploy one aircraft for the YYC-IAH route. The existing CRJ is a joke.

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Old Jan 15, 19, 9:26 pm
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The E90 fleet is redlined for one way flight to your local desert.
One would think AC (or Boeing, have they already disposed of all of these they were supposed to take?) would still be able to sell them.
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Old Jan 15, 19, 9:46 pm
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Originally Posted by Stranger View Post
One would think AC (or Boeing, have they already disposed of all of these they were supposed to take?) would still be able to sell them.
Why would one think that? Look at what a difficult time Boeing had getting rid of the 20 it bought from AC. Which are long gone, by the way - AC is on its own for the other 25.

They'll get rid of them somehow, but it may be selling them cheap for parts.

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Old Jan 15, 19, 10:41 pm
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Really hope they deploy one aircraft for the YYC-IAH route. The existing CRJ is a joke.
You are far too kind in that assessment. I loathe the CRJs.
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