Question: How do I get on an earlier YYZ-YVR as part of AC33?
#16
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I’ll have two bags but will be coming out of CBSA so I’ll go to domestic check because they’re two completely different tickets. It seems like I can same day change for $100 or $150 depending on if this is a domestic or international flight (I don’t know what AC considers it). Is airport standby even an option for Standard INTL fares? There’s a glut of flights that leave between 7-10 on YYZ-YVR so if I could standby for free that would be the great.
The selected routes are things like YYC YEG or YYZ YYL etc. Short haul so called triangle routes.
However, being that you have to request this at the airport, you are at the whim of experts whom only think they know everything. So unless you are a SE with vast experience and willingness to do battle and speak with concierges ... YMMV.
#17
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I’ll have two bags but will be coming out of CBSA so I’ll go to domestic check because they’re two completely different tickets. It seems like I can same day change for $100 or $150 depending on if this is a domestic or international flight (I don’t know what AC considers it). Is airport standby even an option for Standard INTL fares? There’s a glut of flights that leave between 7-10 on YYZ-YVR so if I could standby for free that would be the great.
I've searched a bit last hour, and it would be great if someone could shed light on the apparent discrepancy between what the website says, and what web checkin does with respect to 'Standby Early' for non-triangle routes.
TM
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-James
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No one has touched on the fact that OP is not booked on YYZ-YVR, but YYZ-SYD.
This is, IMO, the only potential problem in this whole situation.
But as I have almost no experience with these types of flights, all I can do is hope the experts offer some insight.
This is, IMO, the only potential problem in this whole situation.
But as I have almost no experience with these types of flights, all I can do is hope the experts offer some insight.
#20
Join Date: Nov 2017
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I'm currently booked on AC33, for the entire flight from YYZ-SYD. On the same day I go to Sydney, I land in Toronto on a separate Air Canada ticket around 5am (pretty rough two days of travel I know). I'd like to spend the day and see some family in Vancouver instead of having a 15 hour layover in Toronto.
Does anyone on the know what AC's policy is for missed flights/connections due to a delayed flight on a separate AC itinerary? Would they re-accomodate or would they simply treat it as a no-show?
Safe Travels,
James
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One thing I realized, which you should consider is that you're arriving into YYZ on a separate ticket. Should your inbound get delayed into YYZ and your miss your flight from YYZ->YVR (be it on the original AC33 direct service to SYD or the new flight you propose) you may very well be on the hook for making rebooking arrangements since they are separate itineraries (even though it's the same airline). It may therefore be prudent to add some buffer time to protect yourself against that incident (I typically add in 5-6 hours which some may find excessive but better safer than sorry)
Does anyone on the know what AC's policy is for missed flights/connections due to a delayed flight on a separate AC itinerary? Would they re-accomodate or would they simply treat it as a no-show?
Safe Travels,
James
Does anyone on the know what AC's policy is for missed flights/connections due to a delayed flight on a separate AC itinerary? Would they re-accomodate or would they simply treat it as a no-show?
Safe Travels,
James
#22
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...and another thing how does baggage work on a long layover? Suppose OP has a 12 hour layover in YVR and has checked bags at YYZ for his flight to SYD, does he need to reclaim the bags or will AC hold it for him? I know certain carriers like UA have a time limit (think it's 12 hours) where they can hold your bag during connections.
-James
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#23
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Grrrr..ok
I'm personally interested enough in some of this stuff that I'll go early tomorrow and see whether the YOW concierges can shed some light.
TM
I'm personally interested enough in some of this stuff that I'll go early tomorrow and see whether the YOW concierges can shed some light.
TM
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If you could also ask what the policy is for same day change and stand-by for us *Golds it would be greatly appreciated. Tell 'em you've got a UA Gold elite k fare flyer who is considering switching some of their business to AC if the Same Day Change/Standby policy is favourable
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The SDC/standby policy is based entirely on your fare, which is well-documented both on AC.com and on FT. Your *G status has no effect.
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I've searched a bit last hour, and it would be great if someone could shed light on the apparent discrepancy between what the website says, and what web checkin does with respect to 'Standby Early' for non-triangle routes.
...and another thing how does baggage work on a long layover? Suppose OP has a 12 hour layover in YVR and has checked bags at YYZ for his flight to SYD, does he need to reclaim the bags or will AC hold it for him? I know certain carriers like UA have a time limit (think it's 12 hours) where they can hold your bag during connections.
This is different than UA, who happily held my bag overnight at DEN for 10 hours or so a while back.
If you could also ask what the policy is for same day change and stand-by for us *Golds it would be greatly appreciated. Tell 'em you've got a UA Gold elite k fare flyer who is considering switching some of their business to AC if the Same Day Change/Standby policy is favourable
Perhaps people's experiences are different, albeit I find it silly that AC charges people to SDC flights when other airlines offer that for free to their elites. If anything SDCs are a boon for the airlines. If you can fill an earlier seat that would otherwise go empty and create capacity for a future flight that they'll have more of an opportunity to sell, why not allow it? Penny wise, pound foolish.
One caveat is that it has been said here that AC will allow free SDC or standby if the flight you're trying to get off is oversold, although I don't know that we've ever seen that policy in writing.
#27
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Thanks for all the help everyone!
I can see that I'm not the only one a little confused on the rules for standby on non-triangle routes. I think the strategy will be to head to check-in at YYZ and just be as kind as possible and hopefully I can easily get on the earliest flight to Vancouver, either as stand-by or SDC. The splitting of YYZ-SYD into YYZ-YVR-SYD was a worry for me but hopefully a good agent can help me out there. If anyone comes up with any more info on the process I'm sure you'll let me and everyone else know.
I can see that I'm not the only one a little confused on the rules for standby on non-triangle routes. I think the strategy will be to head to check-in at YYZ and just be as kind as possible and hopefully I can easily get on the earliest flight to Vancouver, either as stand-by or SDC. The splitting of YYZ-SYD into YYZ-YVR-SYD was a worry for me but hopefully a good agent can help me out there. If anyone comes up with any more info on the process I'm sure you'll let me and everyone else know.
#28
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AC treats AC33 as a single direct flight yyz-syd (at least on my Jan2018 ticket), so if you had applied eups, breaking it apart would also cause you to lose any preconfirmed eupgrade. If R space was unavailable yvr-syd you would be waitlisted and clear only after every single eup, nonrev, and standby flying the whole YYZ-SYD route.