Question: Being waitlisted for an eUpgrade
#1
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Being waitlisted for an eUpgrade
Hey All,
I went to perform an eUpgrade a few minutes ago for one of my flights tomorrow. The business class cabin is practically empty according to the AC site, but I was still waitlisted for the upgrade!
Any ideas as to why this is occurring? Perhaps they are saving a few seats for potential last minute pax who are actually paying full fare.
I went to perform an eUpgrade a few minutes ago for one of my flights tomorrow. The business class cabin is practically empty according to the AC site, but I was still waitlisted for the upgrade!
Any ideas as to why this is occurring? Perhaps they are saving a few seats for potential last minute pax who are actually paying full fare.
#2
Join Date: Sep 2009
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Hey All,
I went to perform an eUpgrade a few minutes ago for one of my flights tomorrow. The business class cabin is practically empty according to the AC site, but I was still waitlisted for the upgrade!
Any ideas as to why this is occurring? Perhaps they are saving a few seats for potential last minute pax who are actually paying full fare.
I went to perform an eUpgrade a few minutes ago for one of my flights tomorrow. The business class cabin is practically empty according to the AC site, but I was still waitlisted for the upgrade!
Any ideas as to why this is occurring? Perhaps they are saving a few seats for potential last minute pax who are actually paying full fare.
#5
Join Date: Mar 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: Air Canada 50K, Marriott Gold,
Posts: 206
The seat map does not represent the number of seats available for sale, nor does it represent the number of seats available for upgrade. It simply shows you which seats on the plane have and have not been pre-selected by passengers with tickets. There needs to be positive space for upgrades which you can check on other sites such as Expertflyer.com. As has been pointed out above, you are looking for R space.
#6
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@Will_YYT
The above posters are correct.
Which flight is this? You should check EF or BCD to understand why your eUpgrade attempt put you on the waitlist. The seatmap is not the best way to determine how "full" or "empty" a cabin is.
The above posters are correct.
Which flight is this? You should check EF or BCD to understand why your eUpgrade attempt put you on the waitlist. The seatmap is not the best way to determine how "full" or "empty" a cabin is.
#7
Join Date: Feb 2005
Posts: 7,156
Another more practical way to check may be to try a dummy booking for 9 seats in business to see if it could be done.
If yes, there are at least 9 vacant seats available for sale. If not, try, 8, then 7...... etc.
If the flight is outside of 48~72 hours, there are bid upgrades that AC would want to consider. Once check-in opens, there're also LMU for purchase. AC may have incentives to leave all free eUpgrade for lower tier members until the gate. My sense is that those willing to pay to upgrade would always be preferred over "free" upgrade particularly lower tier members.
If yes, there are at least 9 vacant seats available for sale. If not, try, 8, then 7...... etc.
If the flight is outside of 48~72 hours, there are bid upgrades that AC would want to consider. Once check-in opens, there're also LMU for purchase. AC may have incentives to leave all free eUpgrade for lower tier members until the gate. My sense is that those willing to pay to upgrade would always be preferred over "free" upgrade particularly lower tier members.
Last edited by Clipper801; Jan 2, 2019 at 1:54 pm
#8
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Another more practical way to check may be to try a dummy booking for 9 seats in business to see if it could be done.
If yes, there are at least 9 vacant seats available for sale. If not, try, 8, then 7...... etc.
If the flight is outside of 48~72 hours, there are bid upgrades that AC would want to consider. Once check-in opens, there're also LMU for purchase. AC may have incentives to leave all free eUpgrade for lower tier members until the gate. My sense is that those willing to pay to upgrade would always be preferred over "free" upgrade particularly lower tier members.
If yes, there are at least 9 vacant seats available for sale. If not, try, 8, then 7...... etc.
If the flight is outside of 48~72 hours, there are bid upgrades that AC would want to consider. Once check-in opens, there're also LMU for purchase. AC may have incentives to leave all free eUpgrade for lower tier members until the gate. My sense is that those willing to pay to upgrade would always be preferred over "free" upgrade particularly lower tier members.
#11
Join Date: Jan 2016
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That is below everyone who requested a Y to O upgrade, including those who have no status and are in Standard fares.
#12
Join Date: Mar 2016
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Are you sure about this? Last year I waitlisted a Y to J upgrade on a 3-cabin flight from YYZ-YVR. O also had its own massive waitlist. My upgrade into J did not clear but I was automatically transferred to the O upgrade list and cleared. There is no way my O upgrade would have cleared if I had been put after everyone already on that list.
#13
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Are you sure about this? Last year I waitlisted a Y to J upgrade on a 3-cabin flight from YYZ-YVR. O also had its own massive waitlist. My upgrade into J did not clear but I was automatically transferred to the O upgrade list and cleared. There is no way my O upgrade would have cleared if I had been put after everyone already on that list.
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