Any hope for YYZ-TYO non-stop 787 (any version) service in 2019?
Dec 23, 2018, 2:35 pm
#16
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Back in 2008 we had no problem with AC's 777s, but in the past few years it's become a real problem for us, to the point where we could become paranoid at the risk of going to somewhere like TLV on the Dreamliner, only to be stuck when we find the return metal has changed.
OK, admittedly we are in our 70s and may be more vulnerable to whatever is "going around" but it just seems that the 777s a/c system recirculates the same germ-laden stale air hour after hour. Never had the same problem on the 787 or 767 - but unfortunately in the 767s case the J pods have not been upgraded, likely as the all mainline 767s are being phased out.!
Dec 23, 2018, 7:28 pm
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No specific background or references re the 777s; just personal experiences, and worse more recently.
Back in 2008 we had no problem with AC's 777s, but in the past few years it's become a real problem for us, to the point where we could become paranoid at the risk of going to somewhere like TLV on the Dreamliner, only to be stuck when we find the return metal has changed.
OK, admittedly we are in our 70s and may be more vulnerable to whatever is "going around" but it just seems that the 777s a/c system recirculates the same germ-laden stale air hour after hour. Never had the same problem on the 787 or 767 - but unfortunately in the 767s case the J pods have not been upgraded, likely as the all mainline 767s are being phased out.!
Back in 2008 we had no problem with AC's 777s, but in the past few years it's become a real problem for us, to the point where we could become paranoid at the risk of going to somewhere like TLV on the Dreamliner, only to be stuck when we find the return metal has changed.
OK, admittedly we are in our 70s and may be more vulnerable to whatever is "going around" but it just seems that the 777s a/c system recirculates the same germ-laden stale air hour after hour. Never had the same problem on the 787 or 767 - but unfortunately in the 767s case the J pods have not been upgraded, likely as the all mainline 767s are being phased out.!
Happy to be proven wrong!
Dec 23, 2018, 7:44 pm
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OK, admittedly we are in our 70s and may be more vulnerable to whatever is "going around" but it just seems that the 777s a/c system recirculates the same germ-laden stale air hour after hour. Never had the same problem on the 787 or 767 - but unfortunately in the 767s case the J pods have not been upgraded, likely as the all mainline 767s are being phased out.!
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Dec 24, 2018, 10:59 am
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Originally Posted by TemboOne
Also of course I recognise that the vast majority of FTers are still working and travelling on business, and as such you pretty much have to accept whatever flights may be available to your intended destination.
Dec 26, 2018, 8:48 am
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So will AC9/10 767 be replaced by 788 in 2019?
Just expanding on my op question/comments, I see two possibly conflicting pieces of information and am hoping that someone much better informed than I am can help clarify.
In one case we hear that the 767s are almost completely phased out, even in Rouge, yet for next year AC's own booking schedule shows AC9/10 operating with 767s right into September YYZ-YYC-NRT-YYC-YYZ!
The predicament is if it's still a 767 we can stay in Y but if there is an equipment change to 788 then change to PE or J!
Any experts out there have any insight or info that you are at liberty to disclose?
Thanks in advance!
In one case we hear that the 767s are almost completely phased out, even in Rouge, yet for next year AC's own booking schedule shows AC9/10 operating with 767s right into September YYZ-YYC-NRT-YYC-YYZ!
The predicament is if it's still a 767 we can stay in Y but if there is an equipment change to 788 then change to PE or J!
Any experts out there have any insight or info that you are at liberty to disclose?
Thanks in advance!
Dec 26, 2018, 9:04 am
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Just expanding on my op question/comments, I see two possibly conflicting pieces of information and am hoping that someone much better informed than I am can help clarify.
In one case we hear that the 767s are almost completely phased out, even in Rouge, yet for next year AC's own booking schedule shows AC9/10 operating with 767s right into September YYZ-YYC-NRT-YYC-YYZ!
The predicament is if it's still a 767 we can stay in Y but if there is an equipment change to 788 then change to PE or J!
Any experts out there have any insight or info that you are at liberty to disclose?
Thanks in advance!
In one case we hear that the 767s are almost completely phased out, even in Rouge, yet for next year AC's own booking schedule shows AC9/10 operating with 767s right into September YYZ-YYC-NRT-YYC-YYZ!
The predicament is if it's still a 767 we can stay in Y but if there is an equipment change to 788 then change to PE or J!
Any experts out there have any insight or info that you are at liberty to disclose?
Thanks in advance!
767 will remain at Rouge for the foreseeable future. Only exiting mainline - they lose 6 763s but gain 2 789s and 4 333s.
Dec 26, 2018, 2:15 pm
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Thank you YXUflyboy!
As far as we know the 767 will remain in the fleet to finish the seasonal flight. All 767-300s will leave by the end of 2019. If it does switch to a 788 I'll be thrilled as it means higher chance of it sticking around in 2020.
767 will remain at Rouge for the foreseeable future. Only exiting mainline - they lose 6 763s but gain 2 789s and 4 333s.
If they do switch to the 788 I hope we'll be allowed to buy-up to the same seats in PY!
Travelling late season is always a bit dicey for equipment changes, and yes, agree with you re the 788 for 2020.
Dec 26, 2018, 2:25 pm
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Being yyc based, I've been going to NRT via YVR to fly on the 789.
1) My wife and I prefer 787 J to 767 J.
2) once our kid was over 2, I flew in PY with her. There is no PY on the 767.
The first positive change for me was YVR-KIX going mainline. 788/9 for YYC-NRT would be awesome.
1) My wife and I prefer 787 J to 767 J.
2) once our kid was over 2, I flew in PY with her. There is no PY on the 767.
The first positive change for me was YVR-KIX going mainline. 788/9 for YYC-NRT would be awesome.
Dec 26, 2018, 8:59 pm
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The 787's advantage is related to the ability to set the cabin altitude lower and the humidification system. In this way, it is basically better than any airplane flying - including the A350. The windows are love em or hate em (I love em). They aren't otherwise superior to the 777, and the J cabin is actually more spacious on the 777. Also, in a fleet where the oldest plane is 11 years old, you really can't call AC's 777s "old."