AC Testing Under-Seat Baggage Tags
#91
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It would be better if they revisited the policy but in the meantime I'll press the envelope in the firm conviction it would be easier for a GA to relent than start the deboarding process over my refusal to put my lone bag under the seat in front of me. Throwing someone off is a lot of paperwork.
#92
Join Date: Jun 2016
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Airlines should provide enough overhead bin space to allow every passenger to store a max size carryon period. FA bags and safety equipment should have their own storage spaces.
instead airlines count on sime % of passengers not using the overhead bin, and in todays "pay for a checked bag" world more and more people are bringing carryons with them.
instead airlines count on sime % of passengers not using the overhead bin, and in todays "pay for a checked bag" world more and more people are bringing carryons with them.
#93
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Airlines should provide enough overhead bin space to allow every passenger to store a max size carryon period. FA bags and safety equipment should have their own storage spaces.
instead airlines count on sime % of passengers not using the overhead bin, and in todays "pay for a checked bag" world more and more people are bringing carryons with them.
instead airlines count on sime % of passengers not using the overhead bin, and in todays "pay for a checked bag" world more and more people are bringing carryons with them.
But building upon what you said, they (it's not just AC) should simply charge for excess carry ons instead. If they did it right, they wouldn't make less revenue (people would probably check more bags) and boarding times might actually improve.
#94
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Airlines should provide enough overhead bin space to allow every passenger to store a max size carryon period. FA bags and safety equipment should have their own storage spaces.
instead airlines count on sime % of passengers not using the overhead bin, and in todays "pay for a checked bag" world more and more people are bringing carryons with them.
instead airlines count on sime % of passengers not using the overhead bin, and in todays "pay for a checked bag" world more and more people are bringing carryons with them.
I still feel that charging for a carry on would improve things even if it increases prices again. And yes I'm aware of all the potential issues with boarding times etc.
Can't you just rip the tag off after you get past the GA?
#96
Join Date: Mar 2019
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Flying YVR->YOW in narrow body (A321) J last week, I had only a small backpack. It got tagged at the gate despite my protests. The FA on the aircraft also said to me "the backpack needs to go under the seat in front of you." I then pointed to 1D, my bulkhead seat, and said "but I'm sitting there." The FA then seemed flustered. I "wasn't allowed" to put my tagged backpack in the overhead bin, but of course there is no seat in front of me. She tried to tell me it had to go under *my* seat . . . finally she relented, *took off the white tag* and allowed my backpack to go overhead.
I almost died eye rolling.
I almost died eye rolling.
#97
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Flying YVR->YOW in narrow body (A321) J last week, I had only a small backpack. It got tagged at the gate despite my protests. The FA on the aircraft also said to me "the backpack needs to go under the seat in front of you." I then pointed to 1D, my bulkhead seat, and said "but I'm sitting there." The FA then seemed flustered. I "wasn't allowed" to put my tagged backpack in the overhead bin, but of course there is no seat in front of me. She tried to tell me it had to go under *my* seat . . . finally she relented, *took off the white tag* and allowed my backpack to go overhead.
I almost died eye rolling.
I almost died eye rolling.
#98
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They charge for carry on. All announcements need to start with a long explanation. The boarding process keeps getting stopped as the gate agents need to do credit card translations during boarding.
Charging for carry on is just evil .......
#99
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Flying YVR->YOW in narrow body (A321) J last week, I had only a small backpack. It got tagged at the gate despite my protests. The FA on the aircraft also said to me "the backpack needs to go under the seat in front of you." I then pointed to 1D, my bulkhead seat, and said "but I'm sitting there." The FA then seemed flustered. I "wasn't allowed" to put my tagged backpack in the overhead bin, but of course there is no seat in front of me. She tried to tell me it had to go under *my* seat . . . finally she relented, *took off the white tag* and allowed my backpack to go overhead.
I almost died eye rolling.
I almost died eye rolling.
#102
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#103
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Why can't they just enforce the carry-on rules? (this includes the shopping bags after security) This should alleviate most of the issues
Sure it sucks and its very LCC-ish, but for many people who have traveled with other airlines (all types), they would've had a combination of:
1) carry-on bags being weighed (not applicable to AC)
2) carry-on bags being counted (max 2)
3) carry-on bags being fit in the sizer (usually very slack w/ personal item)
after a while, most people will naturally figure out the suitcase goes up, the backpack/personal item stays down.
My experience:
I was in Japan recently flying from Osaka to Hong Kong w/ HK Express (LCC). The fare prices were absurd, but that's besides the point. At check in, the agent specifically weighed my carry on bags and also said no less than 3 times: "you have a backpack and a suitcase, you cant not carry a 3rd bag." At the gate, the agent refused to board anyone that was bringing on more than 2 bags, so you see people get out of the line, shove their duty-free shopping into their purse/backpack, and get back in line to get on.
Sure it sucks and its very LCC-ish, but for many people who have traveled with other airlines (all types), they would've had a combination of:
1) carry-on bags being weighed (not applicable to AC)
2) carry-on bags being counted (max 2)
3) carry-on bags being fit in the sizer (usually very slack w/ personal item)
after a while, most people will naturally figure out the suitcase goes up, the backpack/personal item stays down.
My experience:
I was in Japan recently flying from Osaka to Hong Kong w/ HK Express (LCC). The fare prices were absurd, but that's besides the point. At check in, the agent specifically weighed my carry on bags and also said no less than 3 times: "you have a backpack and a suitcase, you cant not carry a 3rd bag." At the gate, the agent refused to board anyone that was bringing on more than 2 bags, so you see people get out of the line, shove their duty-free shopping into their purse/backpack, and get back in line to get on.
#104
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IIRC at DXB, the Emirates people sized and weighed my carry-on just before security. if it was over, I probably would have had to go back to checkin. that's more efficient than at the gate - at a few airports I've seen people walk around and pick up carryons to see if it was too heavy to carry on.
#105
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Is this “test” ongoing? Only on certain routes?
I’ve flown numerous times since mid November and not seen it but with several upcoming flights wanted to know.
I’ve flown numerous times since mid November and not seen it but with several upcoming flights wanted to know.