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AC848/9 is a 777-300 but is this the dreaded HD?

Old Oct 25, 2018, 11:09 am
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AC848/9 is a 777-300 but is this the dreaded HD?

Planning travel to LHR next month & direct YYT-LHR has stopped. Looking at via YYZ and 848/9 & I see this is a 777-300. Is this the dreaded HD? I'll be in Y rather than PY or J.
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Old Oct 25, 2018, 11:17 am
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All 777s are HD. That only referred to the original 777s that were 10 across seating, but since the rest of the fleet was reconfigured, now the only difference between the original HD and the rest of the fleet is the size of the J cabin.

YYT-LHR is still operating, but only Wed/Fri. YHZ-LHR operates 4x/week. Both of those are on the 7M8 which has a roughly similar Y cabin to the 777s (and 787s) in terms of seat width and pitch.
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Old Oct 25, 2018, 11:19 am
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Another difference I can possibly think of is the pax to lav ratio? If there is a difference then one version may be better or worse than another.
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Old Oct 25, 2018, 11:50 am
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28 J seat 777-300:
in J: lavs by the 2nd exit shared with PY (and Y)
In PY: may have older IFE system. Better access to lavs.

40 J seat 777-300:
In J: 2nd exit lavs for J only.
In PY: new Panasonic IFE. Poorer access to lavs. Need to walk back into Y.
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Old Oct 25, 2018, 11:54 am
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Originally Posted by ChrisA330
All 777s are HD. That only referred to the original 777s that were 10 across seating, but since the rest of the fleet was reconfigured, now the only difference between the original HD and the rest of the fleet is the size of the J cabin.

YYT-LHR is still operating, but only Wed/Fri. YHZ-LHR operates 4x/week. Both of those are on the 7M8 which has a roughly similar Y cabin to the 777s (and 787s) in terms of seat width and pitch.
Thanks for that. The direct flight on the Friday night is less useful than a Sunday night flight unfortunately & I could do with a routing via YYZ to scrape the AQM for E35 next year. (YYT-LHR in standard, even as a frequent traveller just doesn't deliver the AQM). Familiar with the 7M8 & find that tolerable in the preferred seats. (although not as comfortable as the old 319's) so I guess I can deal with the 777. Recalled the furor over it's original introduction into service hence the question.
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Old Oct 25, 2018, 12:01 pm
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Although this is digressing into the HD sucks thread, I did Y on the HD round trip yvr-hkg when it was introduced. Haven't done anything less than PY on a 777 since because of that.
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Old Oct 25, 2018, 12:12 pm
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Originally Posted by Diabeetus
Although this is digressing into the HD sucks thread, I did Y on the HD round trip yvr-hkg when it was introduced. Haven't done anything less than PY on a 777 since because of that.
Just curious, what is it that sucks, specifically?

I've only ever done PY or J but have an upcoming YYZ-YVR on a 777 in Y. At least I get the preferred seat, and I will of course attempt an eUp but in case I actually end up in Y what particular dimension of hell have I signed up for?
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Old Oct 25, 2018, 12:16 pm
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I've never flown a 10 across 777, but I have flown other aircraft with similar Y dimensions, and for me it's the seat width...or more specifically shoulder width.
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Old Oct 25, 2018, 12:18 pm
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Originally Posted by WaytoomuchEurope
what particular dimension of hell have I signed up for?
17" by 31"
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Old Oct 25, 2018, 12:19 pm
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Originally Posted by canopus27
17" by 31"
Thin line and hard as hell at that.
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Old Oct 25, 2018, 12:21 pm
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Originally Posted by canopus27
17" by 31"
No problem. I'm only 6'2" and 220#.

That eUp better clear.
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Old Oct 25, 2018, 1:33 pm
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Originally Posted by WaytoomuchEurope
No problem. I'm only 6'2" and 220#.

That eUp better clear.
Book a bulkhead/exit aisle and you'll be fine unless someone huge snuggles up next to you in that middle seat.
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Old Oct 25, 2018, 1:41 pm
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Originally Posted by The Lev
Book a bulkhead/exit aisle and you'll be fine unless someone huge snuggles up next to you in that middle seat.
I did book 18D in case of not clearing so it won't be TOO bad. Short flight anyway.

Thanks for the input.
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Old Oct 25, 2018, 3:02 pm
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The 777s were fine in Y when AC first got them ... in the original 9 across seating.

Today everything is HD. If your upgrade doesn't clear, you're facing hours of discomfort in something that's little more than a bloated CRJ.
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Old Oct 25, 2018, 3:45 pm
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I think this has been mentioned in this forum before. If you really can't stand the seat mid flight, just grab a book and sit in one of the washrooms. Now you have a fully enclosed suite
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