Aeroplan issues with award redemption on partner airlines
#106
Join Date: May 2013
Location: YYT/YYC/TPE
Programs: AC SE, UA, National Exec Elite, Nexus, GE
Posts: 1,791
Do we know if this is only affecting AE bookings, or is the same issue affecting revenue AC tickets having segments on these airlines? I know for the most part AC does not like LO on TATL tickets, even if WAW is the final destination AC likes to force you to go through FRA/MUC and connect to LH on an AC codeshare. But surely when you buy an AC ticket to go to CTS they would have to put you on an NH flight if you connect via TYO/OSA/NGO. If they are claiming that it's the reservation backend communications issue, it should theoretically affect revenue tickets, too.
#107
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: YWG
Programs: Aeroplan, MileagePlus, Marriott Rewards
Posts: 2,132
I don't think it's a HUACA situation as I have tried several agents (while simultaneously looking at the Aeroplan site, United and EF). Each time, the AE agents state that "there is no availability" as opposed to "yes it's available but we cannot currently book it." After reading this thread and calling in the first time, the agent actually tried to feed me the line that there is simply nothing available despite my telling her that there is I class space, but it is apparently a problem on your end. She insisted, asking "where are you seeing this space?" and I asked her to kindly check with her IT folks to see if it is a known issue. Sure enough, she came back and confirmed it is an IT issue with no ETA.
Interestingly, AE has not issued a news release on their site as they did when they had a similar problem in 2017. Again, very suspicious.
Interestingly, AE has not issued a news release on their site as they did when they had a similar problem in 2017. Again, very suspicious.
- major IT problem, we're working on it
- bookings for certain carriers are being cancelled (so even spoon-feeding specific flights found elsewhere won't work)
- yes the carriers you want are unavailable, but it's affecting many carriers (i.e. it's not a conspiracy)
- no timeframe for resolution, "try again in a week or two"
So for the moment we're left twisting in the wind with no commitment on Aeroplan's part other than a vague commitment to work on it. The options are to book high YQ carriers or take your chances on the possibility of the IT problem affecting the low/no YQ carriers somehow being resolved.
#108
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: YUL
Programs: AC*E50 (*A Gold), Accor Platinum, Bonvoy Gold Elite, Hilton Gold, Amex Platinum, NEXUS, Global Entry
Posts: 5,427
Sadly, you are right. The operators are well versed in talking about this, it's clearly a hot topic. The talking points as of right now seem to be along the lines of:
So for the moment we're left twisting in the wind with no commitment on Aeroplan's part other than a vague commitment to work on it. The options are to book high YQ carriers or take your chances on the possibility of the IT problem affecting the low/no YQ carriers somehow being resolved.
- major IT problem, we're working on it
- bookings for certain carriers are being cancelled (so even spoon-feeding specific flights found elsewhere won't work)
- yes the carriers you want are unavailable, but it's affecting many carriers (i.e. it's not a conspiracy)
- no timeframe for resolution, "try again in a week or two"
So for the moment we're left twisting in the wind with no commitment on Aeroplan's part other than a vague commitment to work on it. The options are to book high YQ carriers or take your chances on the possibility of the IT problem affecting the low/no YQ carriers somehow being resolved.
#109


Join Date: Apr 2017
Location: DCA
Programs: Marriott GLD; Hilton GLD; Free Agent (former AA PLT/US GLD)
Posts: 1,318
I called in today and was fed the same line about bookings being cancelled. The rep also seemed to think that Aeroplan was buying paid tickets for those affected. Given that, I'm led to believe there's some internal misinformation conflating the current issue with the LX F debacle a while back.
#110
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: YWG
Programs: Aeroplan, MileagePlus, Marriott Rewards
Posts: 2,132
What the last agent I spoke to said is that when attempts have been made to book flights on blocked carriers (LX and the like), they get cancelled automatically due to the mysterious "IT problem". Apparently there is no way for AE to convince LX et al that these tickets are legitimate. So she was basically pre-empting any possibility of me spoon-feeding her the flights that I want and that have been consistently available for Sunday departures for months up until this latest round of so-called "IT problems".
So that leaves me here, totally at Aeroplan's mercy to restore access to the full range of carriers again.
#111
Join Date: Oct 2009
Location: YUL
Programs: AC*E50 (*A Gold), Accor Platinum, Bonvoy Gold Elite, Hilton Gold, Amex Platinum, NEXUS, Global Entry
Posts: 5,427

Edited to add:
To be clear, nothing was said about existing bookings being cancelled and there is nothing that would suggest that is happening.
What the last agent I spoke to said is that when attempts have been made to book flights on blocked carriers (LX and the like), they get cancelled automatically "due to the IT problem". So she was basically pre-empting any possibility of me spoon-feeding her the flights that I want and that have been consistently available for Sunday departures for months up until this latest round of "IT problems".
So that leaves me here, totally at Aeroplan's mercy to restore access to the full range of carriers again.
What the last agent I spoke to said is that when attempts have been made to book flights on blocked carriers (LX and the like), they get cancelled automatically "due to the IT problem". So she was basically pre-empting any possibility of me spoon-feeding her the flights that I want and that have been consistently available for Sunday departures for months up until this latest round of "IT problems".
So that leaves me here, totally at Aeroplan's mercy to restore access to the full range of carriers again.
Last edited by ffsim; Sep 5, 18 at 10:24 am Reason: Additional response
#112
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: YWG
Programs: Aeroplan, MileagePlus, Marriott Rewards
Posts: 2,132
Based on what they've told me, it seems to me that this issue is just preventing new bookings.
#113
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: FOTSG Tangerine Ex E35k (AC)
Posts: 5,609
IMO this would definitely be the prudent thing to do if you have a pre-existing booking on a low/no YQ carrier. With these problems, I'd be checking existing bookings at least once a week to make sure they're still there, unaffected.
Based on what they've told me, it seems to me that this issue is just preventing new bookings.
Based on what they've told me, it seems to me that this issue is just preventing new bookings.
#114
Join Date: Apr 2013
Programs: BA Executive Club, Alaska Mileage Plan, CX Gold, SPG Gold, Aeroplan
Posts: 17
Update: did my standard check again on EF, United and AE, and sure enough only the LX flights on AE don't show up. Plenty of I space on the LX flight in question.
Call in to AE again, asking about the availability, getting the standard "nothing available" line. I ask her to check whether there is something going on with Swiss because I have reason to believe that there is availability on that flight, and she looks something up and feeds me the same story: technical issue, flights inhibited, no ETA, top priority. She assured me this is nothing to do with the AC/AE tie up, and checked with a Lead a couple of times on what they plan to do. Apparently the issue is that they have inhibited the booking of these airlines (LX, NH, TK and others) because even if AE ticketed it, folks would show up at the airport and the operating carrier would have no record of the reservation.
I am still suspicious because there is nothing posted as a news item on the AE site as there was in 2017 when a similar issue happened:
https://www.aeroplan.com/whats_new/n...110_2017_05_19
Apparently they have a team of people working on it and it is a top priority. Truth or BS? They do not have any credible way to make things right for those whose plans have been messed up because of availability that has come and gone due to this saga.
Call in to AE again, asking about the availability, getting the standard "nothing available" line. I ask her to check whether there is something going on with Swiss because I have reason to believe that there is availability on that flight, and she looks something up and feeds me the same story: technical issue, flights inhibited, no ETA, top priority. She assured me this is nothing to do with the AC/AE tie up, and checked with a Lead a couple of times on what they plan to do. Apparently the issue is that they have inhibited the booking of these airlines (LX, NH, TK and others) because even if AE ticketed it, folks would show up at the airport and the operating carrier would have no record of the reservation.
I am still suspicious because there is nothing posted as a news item on the AE site as there was in 2017 when a similar issue happened:
https://www.aeroplan.com/whats_new/n...110_2017_05_19
Apparently they have a team of people working on it and it is a top priority. Truth or BS? They do not have any credible way to make things right for those whose plans have been messed up because of availability that has come and gone due to this saga.
#115
Join Date: Aug 2010
Location: YWG
Programs: Aeroplan, MileagePlus, Marriott Rewards
Posts: 2,132
Update: did my standard check again on EF, United and AE, and sure enough only the LX flights on AE don't show up. Plenty of I space on the LX flight in question.
Call in to AE again, asking about the availability, getting the standard "nothing available" line. I ask her to check whether there is something going on with Swiss because I have reason to believe that there is availability on that flight, and she looks something up and feeds me the same story: technical issue, flights inhibited, no ETA, top priority. She assured me this is nothing to do with the AC/AE tie up, and checked with a Lead a couple of times on what they plan to do. Apparently the issue is that they have inhibited the booking of these airlines (LX, NH, TK and others) because even if AE ticketed it, folks would show up at the airport and the operating carrier would have no record of the reservation.
I am still suspicious because there is nothing posted as a news item on the AE site as there was in 2017 when a similar issue happened:
https://www.aeroplan.com/whats_new/n...110_2017_05_19
Apparently they have a team of people working on it and it is a top priority. Truth or BS? They do not have any credible way to make things right for those whose plans have been messed up because of availability that has come and gone due to this saga.
Call in to AE again, asking about the availability, getting the standard "nothing available" line. I ask her to check whether there is something going on with Swiss because I have reason to believe that there is availability on that flight, and she looks something up and feeds me the same story: technical issue, flights inhibited, no ETA, top priority. She assured me this is nothing to do with the AC/AE tie up, and checked with a Lead a couple of times on what they plan to do. Apparently the issue is that they have inhibited the booking of these airlines (LX, NH, TK and others) because even if AE ticketed it, folks would show up at the airport and the operating carrier would have no record of the reservation.
I am still suspicious because there is nothing posted as a news item on the AE site as there was in 2017 when a similar issue happened:
https://www.aeroplan.com/whats_new/n...110_2017_05_19
Apparently they have a team of people working on it and it is a top priority. Truth or BS? They do not have any credible way to make things right for those whose plans have been messed up because of availability that has come and gone due to this saga.
I haven't tried it myself yet but if the situation isn't resolved within the next week or so I expect to be trying that approach myself.
#116
Join Date: Feb 2005
Location: Toronto (YYZ)
Posts: 6,147
AN AWARD TICKET HORROR STORY ON SWISS
Departure day arrived and my clients showed up at the airport. While the husband had no trouble checking in, his wife was told she had no ticket.
https://liveandletsfly.boardingarea....#comment-93051
#118
Join Date: Aug 2012
Posts: 17
Lost reservations TK
and yet AE showing connecting flights to IST on TK from European cities only, no TATL from YUL, seems only low fees TATL are being ''unavailabled''
Last edited by mabio; Sep 7, 18 at 2:54 pm
#119
#120
FlyerTalk Evangelist
Join Date: Jul 2003
Location: Florida
Posts: 28,453
This is very troublesome. So the "lost" reservation has been an issue since 2017. Did that relate to the issues Aeroplan acknowledged and made formal announcement on its site in 2017 (the link of the old announcement was posted a few posts upthread, seems the date was 19.05.2017)? TK was not named in the 4 airlines listed in that announcement though.
We have no such acknowledgement this time.