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Old Sep 13, 2018, 10:57 am
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Job done.
By somebody else; the new guy has yet to sit at his new desk.

Let's not overlook l'elephant dans la chambre: "the Air France-KLM group, which is still facing the prospect of walkouts by Air France employees over an ongoing pay dispute likely to be reignited by the arrival this month of new CEO Benjamin Smith."
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Old Sep 14, 2018, 7:34 pm
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Mr. Smith starts work Monday.
http://atwonline.com/airlines/new-ce...ce-klm-sept-17
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Old Sep 14, 2018, 7:49 pm
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Interesting ATWonline post. Thanks for sharing.
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Old Sep 14, 2018, 8:28 pm
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Originally Posted by CZAMFlyer
By somebody else; the new guy has yet to sit at his new desk.

Let's not overlook l'elephant dans la chambre: "the Air France-KLM group, which is still facing the prospect of walkouts by Air France employees over an ongoing pay dispute likely to be reignited by the arrival this month of new CEO Benjamin Smith."
I'm not sure you understand what truly happens at a corporation when a change of guard happens.
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Old Sep 14, 2018, 10:32 pm
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I'm not sure you understand what truly happens at a corporation when a change of guard happens.
I can easily answer this: I don't at all understand what happens. Good deduction. I do understand you'd like your fellow Georgian Old Boy to be cast in the best possible light, but also realize AF/KLM's past successes and shortcomings can't be pinned on a guy who hasn't yet held the reins.
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Old Sep 15, 2018, 6:35 am
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Originally Posted by CZAMFlyer
I can easily answer this: I don't at all understand what happens. Good deduction. I do understand you'd like your fellow Georgian Old Boy to be cast in the best possible light, but also realize AF/KLM's past successes and shortcomings can't be pinned on a guy who hasn't yet held the reins.
I don't understand what you are saying here.
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Old Sep 17, 2018, 3:06 pm
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"Since taking the helm at Air France-KLM, the group’s new Canadian boss said on Monday that he plans on investing half of his salary back into the company. Benjamin Smith, who came to Air France-KLM from his COO role at Air Canada, said he’d invest part of his salary as a gauge of “confidence” in returning the group to success."

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Old Sep 17, 2018, 3:12 pm
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"Since taking the helm at Air France-KLM, the group’s new Canadian boss said on Monday that he plans on investing half of his salary back into the company. Benjamin Smith, who came to Air France-KLM from his COO role at Air Canada, said he’d invest part of his salary as a gauge of “confidence” in returning the group to success."

https://thepointsguy.com/news/air-fr...-into-company/
Holy moly. Talk about putting your money where your mouth is. I don’t know of a single Chief Executive who has done just that. Usually restricted stock is awarded at no cost to the employee at time of hire, even if that employee is the CEO.
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Old Sep 17, 2018, 3:16 pm
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Originally Posted by 24left
"Since taking the helm at Air France-KLM, the group’s new Canadian boss said on Monday that he plans on investing half of his salary back into the company. Benjamin Smith, who came to Air France-KLM from his COO role at Air Canada, said he’d invest part of his salary as a gauge of “confidence” in returning the group to success."

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The cynic in me concludes his salary is twice what it needed to be
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Old Sep 17, 2018, 4:20 pm
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As symbolic as it may be, I still like guys who have skin in the game.
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Old Sep 17, 2018, 4:32 pm
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The cynic in me concludes his salary is twice what it needed to be
If someone is willing to pay the price you demand, the salary is probably just about right.
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Old Sep 17, 2018, 4:41 pm
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Holy moly. Talk about putting your money where your mouth is. I don’t know of a single Chief Executive who has done just that. Usually restricted stock is awarded at no cost to the employee at time of hire, even if that employee is the CEO.
This isn't a very risky decision. I'm sure Smith has received a bunch of restricted stock as you have described; he has simply chosen to invest a portion of his personal compensation into a stock over which he has direct influence. He has put his money where his mouth is, and where his hands can affect the growth of said money.

I imagine there are some 'quick wins' he has in mind in the same vein as those achieved at Air Canada. As a consequence, the stock price can easily rise in double-digit percentages within a couple of years. It's a smart move, a safe bet and as mentioned, not exceedingly bold or unusual.

From the article: "Smith, who has been credited with helping Air Canada expand its international reach to more than 200 destinations..."

It will be very interesting to see how he manages the routes that are in direct competition with Air Canada. I can't imagine Smith signed a non-compete clause or any such restriction, and there are a few Canadian markets that can prove to be lucrative for AF/KLM. How will he approach the CDG-YUL route? Remember, AC's 77W slave ships were so configured as a direct answer to AF on that route (and to better compete on the YVR-HKG route among others). I imagine France/Netherlands to YYZ is an important market that AC also serves, and with AC winding up its first season between YVR & CDG, and Smith having intimate knowledge of the successes/challenges Air Canada faces, how will AF improve its service on that route? KLM is already a very established year-round daily player on its YYZ/YVR routes of course. Will Smith steer his airline into US markets that AC has spent significant effort in establishing an option to Europe for underserved American cities?

Canada comprises a small sliver of AF/KLM's global pie, but Smith likely understands how best to make money by flying to & fro, or at least how to avoid losing money doing the same thing.

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Old Sep 17, 2018, 8:47 pm
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Originally Posted by longtimeflyin
Holy moly. Talk about putting your money where your mouth is. I don’t know of a single Chief Executive who has done just that. Usually restricted stock is awarded at no cost to the employee at time of hire, even if that employee is the CEO.
Plenty of CEOs take $1 salary.. just saying.
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Old Sep 17, 2018, 9:06 pm
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Plenty of CEOs take $1 salary.. just saying.
Yes there are. But the majority of these CEOs have very good stock option deals.
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Old Sep 18, 2018, 6:32 am
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Originally Posted by Jumper Jack
Plenty of CEOs take $1 salary.. just saying.
Given French tax rates, he won't be taking home many more Euros than that after paying half his salary to acquire shares and most of the rest in taxes... Unless he earns his bonuses.
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