Rouge being replaced by Mainline for Hawaii/Mexico and Osaka routes from YVR/YYC
Mar 8, 2018, 12:33 pm
#76
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now a 777-200
Mon., Mar. 12, 2018 Los Angeles, CA, US (LAX) to Toronto, ON, CA (YYZ - Pearson)
- Flight distance:
2,170 m/3,492 km -
- Flight:AC792Operated By Air Canada
- Aircraft: Boeing 777-200LR
Mar 8, 2018, 2:04 pm
#77
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Suffice to say US airlines do have fleets of domestic planes with layflat seats, and AC does not feel the need to provide this.
AC provides ONE flight a day to SFO/LAX/EWR with a layflat seat, and clearly relocates MOST widebody planes to YVR with layflats. ( i await the cow to jump in to say some layflats are planned
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AC provides ONE flight a day to SFO/LAX/EWR with a layflat seat, and clearly relocates MOST widebody planes to YVR with layflats. ( i await the cow to jump in to say some layflats are planned
)Last edited by The Lev; Mar 9, 2018 at 3:20 am
Mar 8, 2018, 4:13 pm
#78
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I must say I thoroughly enjoyed the AC 767 to/from SFO recently. 1A and 2A, nothing worked, the plug , the IFE, and I was happy to have the last pax's KitKat wrapper waiting for me.
What other airline can you fly a 767 built in the 80s!
(C-FPCA both ways), she seems to be dedicated to this route in her old age.
It does however beat connecting thru EWR.
What other airline can you fly a 767 built in the 80s!
(C-FPCA both ways), she seems to be dedicated to this route in her old age.
It does however beat connecting thru EWR.
Mar 8, 2018, 5:01 pm
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Heck sometimes I’ll drive cross the border to fly out of DTW/BUF to fly domestic in Canada (I.e recently flew DTW - YVR to cut airfare in half and fly on UA metal).
Its true that AC does have some old metal (in particular the 767 and 330s). However, I’d argue they aren’t half as old as the birds you find stateside. Whereas the US legacies are still flying MD80s and 757s somewhat regularly the same can’t be said about AC.
those are my 2 cents.
Safe Travels,
James
Mar 8, 2018, 5:19 pm
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Mar 8, 2018, 5:49 pm
#81
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I think most regulars (who by definition have Nexus) flying transborder would argue that those flights are domestic in almost every respect. There’s no queueing for immigration in Canada/US just answer 2 questions on screen and present the slip of page to border agent. Security is pretty much the same thing. Boarding is the same (I.e no passport checks). Service is the same (no food in Y no free checked bag unless elite).
I'm not following your logic, nor how it relates to my post about YYZ-SFO. While I agree the US Preclearance is a quick & smooth process, it's most definitely not the same as flying domestically, in that there is an immigration step.
Myths don't often fare well in the face of facts. Here's the average fleet age of the largest North American airlines today:
Frontier: 5.7 yrs
Compass: 7.2 yrs
Alaska: 7.7 yrs
JetBlue: 9.5 yrs
WestJet: 9.5 yrs
American: 10.3 yrs
Southwest: 10.6 yrs
Skywest: 11.3 yrs
Air Canada: 13.9 yrs
United: 14.5 yrs
Delta: 16.8 yrs
AC Rouge: 18.2 yrs
Frontier: 5.7 yrs
Compass: 7.2 yrs
Alaska: 7.7 yrs
JetBlue: 9.5 yrs
WestJet: 9.5 yrs
American: 10.3 yrs
Southwest: 10.6 yrs
Skywest: 11.3 yrs
Air Canada: 13.9 yrs
United: 14.5 yrs
Delta: 16.8 yrs
AC Rouge: 18.2 yrs
Mar 9, 2018, 8:50 am
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Availability still screwy on HNL & OGG flts
So its been 3 days now since they loaded the new 738 flights to HNL & OGG. For the majority of dates Nov- Feb 2019, availability continues to show only Latitude & full fare J. A couple of dates show Tango availability but "only 1 seat left" note even though the seatmap shows not a single seat selected. Doesnt seem to be any urgency in getting these flights set up for sale .
Mar 9, 2018, 2:04 pm
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I agree, it's a hassle. You either have to arrive in what basically feels like the dead of night (11 pm in OGG is 3 am in YWG... not ideal considering it will take at least an hour to pick up the car, drive to your destination and get you and your bags inside), or you have to spend the night in YVR and take the early flight out. For my booking I opted for the latter.
I will say, getting AE to open up seats on the AM flight took some effort.
I will say, getting AE to open up seats on the AM flight took some effort.
Mar 9, 2018, 3:34 pm
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I should've realized that from your id. Would connecting to the YYC-OGG flight not work for you? It arrives at OGG early in the evening.
Originating from YYZ, my choice would/will be latter as well. In fact I would choose that even if the later YVR-OGG flight departed at a more "reasonable" time. A night at the Fairmont followed by a morning flight to OGG means arriving feeling well rested.
I agree, it's a hassle. You either have to arrive in what basically feels like the dead of night (11 pm in OGG is 3 am in YWG... not ideal considering it will take at least an hour to pick up the car, drive to your destination and get you and your bags inside), or you have to spend the night in YVR and take the early flight out. For my booking I opted for the latter.
Originating from YYZ, my choice would/will be latter as well. In fact I would choose that even if the later YVR-OGG flight departed at a more "reasonable" time. A night at the Fairmont followed by a morning flight to OGG means arriving feeling well rested.