Introducing Air Canada Basic Economy
Feb 22, 2018, 7:59 am
#91
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Halifax
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We've not seen the exact fare rules yet. Basic Economy may only be available for purchase 14+ days out. If that's the case, I won't even see the option for my business travel.
My corporate policy is "lowest logical fare". I latch on to that middle word with great relish. My practical policy, when its not internal (that is, when it will be passed onto a customer) is "what I'd do with my own money", which usually is low-flex.
My corporate policy is "lowest logical fare". I latch on to that middle word with great relish. My practical policy, when its not internal (that is, when it will be passed onto a customer) is "what I'd do with my own money", which usually is low-flex.
Feb 22, 2018, 8:30 am
#92
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: FOTSG Tangerine Ex E35k (AC)
Posts: 5,612
Yes I do a ton of webex. But nothing beats human interaction, isn’t something like 55% of communication non verbal? Video conferencing doesn’t cut it.
Ah yes, logical fare. You can fly me AC direct and I’m out 4 hours. Or you can pay $200 less and lose me for 8 hours on two flights. Neither of which I’m working on with my 30” leg room and shared (if operable) power port.
Still missing details on this Economy Basic purchase limitations (14 days or what), fare class, elite benefits ignored or not (MLL passes?) and so on.
Ah yes, logical fare. You can fly me AC direct and I’m out 4 hours. Or you can pay $200 less and lose me for 8 hours on two flights. Neither of which I’m working on with my 30” leg room and shared (if operable) power port.
Still missing details on this Economy Basic purchase limitations (14 days or what), fare class, elite benefits ignored or not (MLL passes?) and so on.
Feb 22, 2018, 9:03 am
#93
Join Date: May 2016
Posts: 2,494
I think it is a mixed bag. I also love join.me. What I have noticed over the last couple of years, is as the technology improves there are more people working from home. That is step one. Once you have more people working from home, step two in the evolution is they don't need to be in the same city anymore. It is a completely different dynamic. It probably is creating as much new travel as it is displacing.
Feb 22, 2018, 1:04 pm
#94
Join Date: Aug 2015
Posts: 67
So what happens if I buy BE, board late and my carry on doesn’t fit? AC will check it, for free it appears but what if there’s a laptop or other things not allowed in checked baggage in there?
The one time I’ve had this, ignoring sky check (when laptop and camera did both go) I had a bag in my roller so pulled laptop and camera out into that. Not everyone has a spare bag especially if going somewhere for just the day.
The one time I’ve had this, ignoring sky check (when laptop and camera did both go) I had a bag in my roller so pulled laptop and camera out into that. Not everyone has a spare bag especially if going somewhere for just the day.
Feb 22, 2018, 1:38 pm
#95
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: FOTSG Tangerine Ex E35k (AC)
Posts: 5,612
Feb 22, 2018, 1:57 pm
#96
Join Date: Mar 2009
Location: YQT
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There are 5 ex-Sky Regional and 5 ex-Republic Q400s, 9 of them have small overhead bins, one (498) has the larger bins.
The ex-Sky Regional planes are 74 seats with dark blue seats morm like tge Dash 8 100/300. The ex-republic planes are 78 seats with a slightly different dark blue seat simalar to the Q400s (no coat hooks on the side though )
The ex-Sky Regional planes are 74 seats with dark blue seats morm like tge Dash 8 100/300. The ex-republic planes are 78 seats with a slightly different dark blue seat simalar to the Q400s (no coat hooks on the side though )
Cranky Flyer likes Economy Basic.....
Air Canada?s Basic Economy Introduction Shows How a Even a Slightly Smoother Booking Process Makes A Big Difference Cranky Flier
Air Canada?s Basic Economy Introduction Shows How a Even a Slightly Smoother Booking Process Makes A Big Difference Cranky Flier
Feb 22, 2018, 2:23 pm
#97
Join Date: Dec 2002
Posts: 7,998
South of the border, the success of basic economy is judged buy how many avoid it.
Make basic economy sound so unattractive that buying up is the lesser of the evils.
Make basic economy sound so unattractive that buying up is the lesser of the evils.
Feb 22, 2018, 2:26 pm
#98
Join Date: Feb 2018
Posts: 6
The problem is going to be these passengers are in the last boarding group. Do you want agents trying to process credit card transactions at that point in the process. As a passenger I would rather they get the aircraft door closed and up and away as quickly as possible.
Feb 22, 2018, 3:25 pm
#99
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
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South of the border, the success of basic economy is judged buy how many avoid it.
Make basic economy sound so unattractive that buying up is the lesser of the evils.
Make basic economy sound so unattractive that buying up is the lesser of the evils.
Feb 22, 2018, 4:30 pm
#100
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Join Date: Sep 2012
Location: SFO
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There is a Tango M fare published on YVR-YYZ with no advance purchase requirement. Don't assume that strategy will work. It already doesn't guarantee Flex.
I've wondered about that too. "With my own money", I always find the cheapest way to sit in J. Sometimes that's Flex/PY+eUps, sometimes it's paid J, sometimes it's an LMU. But I doubt that argument would make any beancounters happy.
"Logical" has different meanings to different people. If I have enough room to work (15 inch MacBook Pro means Y is a non-starter), the upfare to J starts to look really cheap compared to my average "hourly" rate.
"Logical" has different meanings to different people. If I have enough room to work (15 inch MacBook Pro means Y is a non-starter), the upfare to J starts to look really cheap compared to my average "hourly" rate.
Feb 22, 2018, 5:49 pm
#101
Join Date: Jan 2017
Location: Halifax
Programs: AC SE100K, Marriott Lifetime Platinum Elite. NEXUS
Posts: 4,562
Indeed it does. And as I said in another thread, if I was obligated to fly buckets that gave me no status next year and thus in the back, I'd question how long I could sustain 10-20 hrs/wk in airports or metal tubes.
Its not quitting tomorrow, but it isn't long.
Its not quitting tomorrow, but it isn't long.
Feb 22, 2018, 8:58 pm
#102
Join Date: Mar 2005
Location: YVR
Programs: AC SE, HH Gold, Marriott Titanium, National EE, Sixt Platinum, Hertz PC, AVIS PC
Posts: 1,908
I was on a Qantas flight the other day, SYD to MEL.. ~90 minutes, cost $160. Free seat selection, free headsets, free first checked bag, free in flight wifi, and dinner served! Got me thinking how sh*t*y Air Canada and WestJet are.. and here AC gets even worse!
Ron.
Ron.
Feb 23, 2018, 3:43 am
#103
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Feb 23, 2018, 7:49 am
#104
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: FOTSG Tangerine Ex E35k (AC)
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Yeah it seems Tango is often available right up to flight dates now. Depending upon loads. Not sure if that good or bad.
Feb 23, 2018, 8:15 am
#105
Join Date: Jan 2005
Location: Vancouver, Canada
Programs: United MileagePlus Silver, Nexus, Global Entry
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