Introducing Air Canada Basic Economy
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You could also remove the 2nd half of @24left's quote there and have it make sense.
I suspect this is yet another reason changing the wording from "Tango" to "Standard" sucks. But perhaps me implying that AC staff get confused between a "Standard fare" and a "standard fare class" is too subtle.
Defining your request as "the fare class that means I get AQM and a checked bag (regardless of status)" may help. Although that doesn't fix the underlying issue.
I suspect this is yet another reason changing the wording from "Tango" to "Standard" sucks. But perhaps me implying that AC staff get confused between a "Standard fare" and a "standard fare class" is too subtle.
Defining your request as "the fare class that means I get AQM and a checked bag (regardless of status)" may help. Although that doesn't fix the underlying issue.
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You could also remove the 2nd half of @24left's quote there and have it make sense.
I suspect this is yet another reason changing the wording from "Tango" to "Standard" sucks. But perhaps me implying that AC staff get confused between a "Standard fare" and a "standard fare class" is too subtle.
Defining your request as "the fare class that means I get AQM and a checked bag (regardless of status)" may help. Although that doesn't fix the underlying issue.
I suspect this is yet another reason changing the wording from "Tango" to "Standard" sucks. But perhaps me implying that AC staff get confused between a "Standard fare" and a "standard fare class" is too subtle.
Defining your request as "the fare class that means I get AQM and a checked bag (regardless of status)" may help. Although that doesn't fix the underlying issue.
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Does anyone have experience trying to credit AC basic economy to other programs like TK? I've noted (like others have here) that the fare bucket appears to be K for both Basic Economy and Standard Economy on some TATL flights, and of course, if one were earning on AC, the accrual rate is lower for basic economy. But on TK (and presumably other programs), the only differentiating factor appears to be the class and fare bucket. On the face of it, K appears to be K. But it seems somewhat surprising that Basic Economy and Standard Economy would credit the same on TK.
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Does anyone have experience trying to credit AC basic economy to other programs like TK? I've noted (like others have here) that the fare bucket appears to be K for both Basic Economy and Standard Economy on some TATL flights, and of course, if one were earning on AC, the accrual rate is lower for basic economy. But on TK (and presumably other programs), the only differentiating factor appears to be the class and fare bucket. On the face of it, K appears to be K. But it seems somewhat surprising that Basic Economy and Standard Economy would credit the same on TK.
The Basic (K) and Standard (K) [there's also a Flex (K)] stem from Branded Fares; AC changes booking classes/fare classes for Tango & Flex
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Does anyone have experience trying to credit AC basic economy to other programs like TK? I've noted (like others have here) that the fare bucket appears to be K for both Basic Economy and Standard Economy on some TATL flights, and of course, if one were earning on AC, the accrual rate is lower for basic economy. But on TK (and presumably other programs), the only differentiating factor appears to be the class and fare bucket. On the face of it, K appears to be K. But it seems somewhat surprising that Basic Economy and Standard Economy would credit the same on TK.
#232
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Adios érrCanada!
Spotted this on the home page whilst managing a flight pass reservation:
Looks like Economy Basic has finally crept into TPACs ;( . Here's to hoping NH and UA have the decency not to jack up fares the way AC is doing now!
-James
Looks like Economy Basic has finally crept into TPACs ;( . Here's to hoping NH and UA have the decency not to jack up fares the way AC is doing now!
-James
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Your going to find that all flights will have basic economy sooner than later. Plus, this will be for almost every airline in the world that issues points. I think airlines now know low end pax fill seats, but are not profitable.
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I'm flying to YOW in basic economy and connecting via YUL. I'm on the first YUL YOW flight of the day in the timetable excerpt here. I have a 43 minute connection at YUL (MCT is 40 min)
Thing is, a friend freed up her availability at around noon in Ottawa, and it'd be awesome if I can meet her. If I misconnect at YUL and AC rebooks me, does being basic economy mean I lose some clout asking them to fly me to YYZ and then to YOW in order to make it downtown by noon? Long shot question, but any advice is appreciated.
Thing is, a friend freed up her availability at around noon in Ottawa, and it'd be awesome if I can meet her. If I misconnect at YUL and AC rebooks me, does being basic economy mean I lose some clout asking them to fly me to YYZ and then to YOW in order to make it downtown by noon? Long shot question, but any advice is appreciated.
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Fricking FT quote editor is farting on me
@asovse1
If it's IRROPs for the reason, then you have some flexibility regardless of fare paid.
YMMV depending on the agent you speak to, but I have been able to reroute something similar to your ask in the past given the gap between the morning and afternoon YULYOW flights. The only caveat with that is that I was SE on a Tango fare (before it was renamed to Standard) at the time and I'm not sure if that had anything to do with it.
@asovse1
If it's IRROPs for the reason, then you have some flexibility regardless of fare paid.
YMMV depending on the agent you speak to, but I have been able to reroute something similar to your ask in the past given the gap between the morning and afternoon YULYOW flights. The only caveat with that is that I was SE on a Tango fare (before it was renamed to Standard) at the time and I'm not sure if that had anything to do with it.
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I'm flying to YOW in basic economy and connecting via YUL. I'm on the first YUL YOW flight of the day in the timetable excerpt here. I have a 43 minute connection at YUL (MCT is 40 min)
Thing is, a friend freed up her availability at around noon in Ottawa, and it'd be awesome if I can meet her. If I misconnect at YUL and AC rebooks me, does being basic economy mean I lose some clout asking them to fly me to YYZ and then to YOW in order to make it downtown by noon? Long shot question, but any advice is appreciated.
Thing is, a friend freed up her availability at around noon in Ottawa, and it'd be awesome if I can meet her. If I misconnect at YUL and AC rebooks me, does being basic economy mean I lose some clout asking them to fly me to YYZ and then to YOW in order to make it downtown by noon? Long shot question, but any advice is appreciated.
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Yeah I saw your original edit, I'm not sure why my pic of the scheds aren't loading either. It's intermittent
I'll have to take my chances with the desk then, they'll see if I can beat the 7h20 minute gap between the only morning and first afternoon flight! Thanks to you both!
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I can't find the screenshot above either on the standard eUp listings page. Maybe it was a brief glitch as IT rolled something out after neglected to test it on a development environment. Assuming AC have one of those.