jc94

pewpew

Yeah, I don't think you can decouple the societal and economic aspects... Because tipping is basically having a businessman underpay employees and relying on the goodwill of customers to make that up

jc94

eigenvector

It does apply... but it's $2 less per hour (in Ontario) for staff who serve alcohol. Nonetheless we tip lots of people who do make minimum wage. There's no rhyme or reason to it, really. Someone who makes $12/hour + tips is likely bringing in quite a lot more than they would if they just got the standard $14. A server working a busy shift in a expensive-ish restaurant could easily clear more than a registered nurse in the intensive care unit. But them's the breaks, and if you don't tip people are going to get into your face about it, so I shut up and cough up.

smallmj

I tip around 15% for acceptable/good service, 20%+ for exceptional service and zilch for bad service. My standard for acceptable service is pretty low, but if wait-staff don't meet it then I won't tip them.

longtimeflyin

After this wage change and thus increase in food costs, I no longer tip.

PB53x11

Should I tip a registered massage therapist? The place I go to regularly - because of convenience and the fact the therapists are generally quite good - really encourages tipping. I've never seen this at other massage clinics, though. I have thus far not tipped - I consider them professionals.

RangerNS

Tipping an RMT would require unprofessional service.

24left

I would not and never have. RMTs are licensed professionals. The fees for their services are quite high - especially if not covered by insurance. I don't see anyone tipping their dentist. IMHO, "encouraging" tipping puts them in the same category as salons and stylists, and the mani-pedi people. But that's just my view.

canadiancow

I also think tipping is stupid, but I find service at "low-end" restaurants (i.e. the bill for two people is under $100) is, on average, better in tipping cultures than non-tipping cultures.

Even if they know they're likely getting 15% (or whatever) from everyone, they also know that good service could raise that, and bad service could lower it.

yyznomad

As per the others, no.

yyznomad

Ben Smith RW 1G (EN)
Congratulations.

Now off to Adler Mannheim.

smallmj

To quote the title character on Bones, "I don't know what that means."

jc94

I think you and I have different impressions of low-end restaurants I'd consider low-end sub more like half that, Canadian. Especially if before tip. I guess it depends on alcohol. Many of my friends don't drink.
Maybe it's a co-incidence but I do find I get generally good service within NA restaurants especially when compared with other locations, except when I'm with my parents. For some reason we nearly always seem to have terrible service. Maybe their accent indicates there's no point in exceeding expectations. Even after years they're always amazed when I explain that 10% is not a good or standard tip here.

I probably shouldn't mention the countries but I've been one place where the two of us never received food at the same time. IN one case my entree arrived as the other person was onto dessert. And in a few countries had major issues getting the check. I had to threaten to leave without paying in one airport when it was t-20 and I'd been trying to get the bill for 10 minutes.

I've tipped a barber once or twice, but generally no. I wouldn't tip my dentist because while I don't pay I see the prices. I think I ran through about $1200 insurance in 3 months last year. 18 x-rays, one filling and a check up and cleaning. Fortunately my new dentist directly charges so I don't even have to take a card with me - beats the one where I had to fax receipts through (in 2015). NA dentists are insane. I doubt even the receptionists are making minimum wage.

Ditto? RW 1G (EN)?

vernonc

Spain-Portugal game was good. What an awesome free kick by Ronaldo.