AC888 YOW -LHR gone Dec 4-6?
Nov 28, 2017, 10:34 am
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AC888 YOW -LHR gone Dec 4-6?
AC888, the nonstop YOW-LHR, is generally daily. But it can't be found on aircanada.com, ExpertFlyer, or ITA on Dec 4-6. Am I right that it's not operating (if it were merely sold out, it would show up on ExpertFlyer, right?), and any way to know why?
Nov 28, 2017, 10:43 am
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The new timetable starting December 7, for example, shows daily with the following exceptions: "Except DEC 11, 24, JAN 17, 22, 24, 29, 31, FEB 07, MAR 11"
Also, no specific reasons are provided on their timetables.
Nov 28, 2017, 3:56 pm
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When they first made FRA-YOW summer seasonal, we were told that LHR-YOW would now really be daily all winter. Ever since, the number of exceptions to the daily service seems to have increased each winter. It's going to get worse once the 763s are completely retired and they have to use a larger aircraft.
Bottom line: they don't make enough money on the route in the winter to operate it daily.
Bottom line: they don't make enough money on the route in the winter to operate it daily.
Nov 28, 2017, 4:47 pm
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Possible candidate for 737MAX? It's within the range, technically. I'm not aware of what the load factors are like on this route, though - may be too much of a downgauge.
Nov 28, 2017, 6:32 pm
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Would Ottawa mandarins be willing to slum it in "North American" J rather than lie flats? My guess is that they'd rather connect. Would work for Y pax though.
Nov 28, 2017, 6:37 pm
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They could also do a mix of 788/9 some days and 7M8 on others.
Nov 29, 2017, 11:11 am
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When they first made FRA-YOW summer seasonal, we were told that LHR-YOW would now really be daily all winter. Ever since, the number of exceptions to the daily service seems to have increased each winter. It's going to get worse once the 763s are completely retired and they have to use a larger aircraft.
Bottom line: they don't make enough money on the route in the winter to operate it daily.
Bottom line: they don't make enough money on the route in the winter to operate it daily.
Nov 29, 2017, 11:24 am
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Nov 30, 2017, 10:03 am
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This is the time of year when they pull many aircraft out of service for maintenance - presumably not enough metal to cover the full schedule every day so they rob from here and there.
Would Ottawa mandarins be willing to slum it in "North American" J rather than lie flats? My guess is that they'd rather connect. Would work for Y pax though.
Would Ottawa mandarins be willing to slum it in "North American" J rather than lie flats? My guess is that they'd rather connect. Would work for Y pax though.
As generally (no longer always) a paid-J (or at least P) flyer, I'd definitely connect rather than do the redeye in "North American" J seats. I might do "North American" J/PE on the daytime return to save a stop, though.
BTW - not everyone in Ottawa who travels are "mandarins". And lots of public servants are no more or less effective, dedicated that private sector folks. [Sorry to be grumpy about it...but the characterization gets eyeroll-worthy after many repetitions!]
Nov 30, 2017, 10:06 am
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Interesting (and unfortunate). I'm on AC889 (the return) on Dec 8, and cheerfully got ticket issued just 10 mins ago. Maybe they're shuffling planes in LHR; or maybe I should expect a cancellation too.
Nov 30, 2017, 10:19 am
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1. (in the Chinese Empire) a member of any of the nine senior grades of the bureaucracy, entered by examinations.
2. a high-ranking official whose powers are extensive and thought to be outside political control.
3. a person of standing and influence, as in literary or intellectual circles
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/di...glish/mandarin 2. a high-ranking official whose powers are extensive and thought to be outside political control.
3. a person of standing and influence, as in literary or intellectual circles
I'm not seeing anything pejorative there.
Nov 30, 2017, 12:08 pm
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For some historical context:
I'm not seeing anything pejorative there.
1. (in the Chinese Empire) a member of any of the nine senior grades of the bureaucracy, entered by examinations.
2. a high-ranking official whose powers are extensive and thought to be outside political control.
3. a person of standing and influence, as in literary or intellectual circles
https://www.collinsdictionary.com/di...glish/mandarin2. a high-ranking official whose powers are extensive and thought to be outside political control.
3. a person of standing and influence, as in literary or intellectual circles
I'm not seeing anything pejorative there.
Anyway, back to the topic of the thread...