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Old Nov 20, 2017, 2:16 pm
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Click here to go to a picture of the White Compensation Form and its stub






View Deflated Seat History Here (Database for submitted occurrences)
Enter New Deflated Seat Occurrence Here (Submit one if you have experienced deflated seat and it will show up in the database above)
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From post #49 in this thread, here's one potential way to (re)inflate an AC seat:
  • Go the home screen "Your Seat". (find this on the seat side panel; not the main video screen)
    • Hold the top left hand corner "Air Canada" (with AC logo) for 3 seconds. Updated (Apr 9 18): may need to hold for as long as 45 seconds for key pad to appear
      • Dial pad shows up - hit 3-2-1.
        • Press "Reset Lumbar Support"
Note that this method has not met 100% success so YMMV.
A better method is for a crew member to use the reset switch under the seat, on the aisle side.

Compensation offers (green/white sheet completed)
40K AE- Apr 18 (50% back of the J class one way redemption)
2018 Jun - $500 coupon
2018 Sep $1,000 eCoupon or 40K AP (P fare TPAC)
2018 Sep $500 eCoupon (P fare TPAC) (no change on protest- update - 6 months later the $150 was increased to $500 - admitted they had made an error)

Compensation offers (no green/white sheet completed)
100K - May 5 (C$150 eCoupon; was moved to a functioning seat after meal service)
2017 Sept - 8,000 AE miles - reported via complaint web page after realizing it was a faulty seat, not standard discomfort; Asked for return of eUps but they declined.
2017 Nov & 2018 Feb - $500 coupons both times (second time on protest that $500 had been offered the previous time)
2018 Sep. $250 coupon (on a paid J TATL).
2018 Nov - $500 eCoupon (J TATL)

Standard eCoupon compensation offers (no haggling; following a recurring pattern)
~10+ hours: $1000
Long TPAC (TPE-YVR)

~6 to ~10 hours: $500
Short TPAC (NRT-YVR)
TATL
South America: YYZ-GRU

less than ~6 hours: 300
TCON


Have a Service Director (SD) That Is Giving You the Case of the Shrugs? Like the real life version of this ASCII emoji -> Ż\_(ツ)_/Ż ?

No success with the SD and/or crew rectifying your deflated seat and you can't be/aren't accommodated to another J seat? If you asked for a compensation form and the SD says they have no idea what you are talking about, you can use the below picture of the stub portion to help freshen their memory (better than nothing)...

Please note that for the longest time, the "Green Compensation Form" version was used, and there have been recent reports of the "White Compensation Form" replacing the Green version. Reports here have indicated that the two forms are virtually identical except for the colour.
There is now an even newer White Form which explicitly lists "deflated seat" and "deflated seat and fixed", among many other items.

Here is a snapshot of the NEWEST full form (as of August 2019), courtesy of lallied

https://www.flyertalk.com/forum/31421855-post2093.html
Originally Posted by lallied
Clearly jinxed myself. New form in case hasnt been posted before.

Oops, see it has been. I just didn’t look far enough down ☹️


This is only the stub portion, courtesy of lallied





Originally Posted by lallied



There’s a main section which the SD fills in and detachable section you get to keep. Each has a reference number. It looks like the green one to me except it’s white.




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Old Feb 12, 2019, 12:57 pm
  #991  
 
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OK I misunderstood what you meant. Yes, I agree -- clearly airlines take Super Diamond and customize it to their own requirements. I too thought the AA version was better than AC's. I just can't remember if the seat inflated or not. There seems to be some minor differences to the product within the AC fleet, as well -- I can consistently sleep sideways comfortably on the 788/789, whilst the table always hits the side of my leg on the 77W (which I find very annoying).
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Old Feb 12, 2019, 12:59 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
I'm so tempted to order something for this weekend.

What's the recommended orange easy to inflate and deflate model?
I've been seriously considering the Klymit V Ultralite SL Sleeping Pad as it is 20" wide and the cushion for the J-pods is 18.5" wide.

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Old Feb 12, 2019, 1:08 pm
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I have a fantasy that involves being able to buy these inflatables with Aeroplan points. The possible irony also amuses me.
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Old Feb 12, 2019, 1:11 pm
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Originally Posted by 24left
I have a fantasy that involves being able to buy these inflatables with Aeroplan points. The possible irony also amuses me.
QOTD

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Old Feb 12, 2019, 1:12 pm
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Another ironic thought: I wonder if one's leg still hits the table if laying on one's side on a deflated 77W seat? Perhaps AC intends to spin deflation as a feature for side-sleepers? :-)
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Old Feb 12, 2019, 1:14 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
I'm so tempted to order something for this weekend.

What's the recommended orange easy to inflate and deflate model?
This This
is the one I got.

As seen on this very thread.

If only they had yellow. We could FT logo them ....
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Old Feb 12, 2019, 1:16 pm
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What have you people done??????

I want the blue one and it's.......


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Old Feb 12, 2019, 1:19 pm
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Originally Posted by 24left
What have you people done??????

I want the blue one and it's.......


I think that's why some of us got orange instead.

Just conform - resistance is futile.
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Old Feb 12, 2019, 1:27 pm
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Originally Posted by Bohemian1
Just conform - resistance is futile.
I bet that is what AC Corporate is saying as well about this deflated seat issue.
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Old Feb 12, 2019, 2:05 pm
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Ordered the orange one. Arriving Thursday. For anyone who needs to ship to the US:
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Old Feb 12, 2019, 2:46 pm
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And it's nice and small.

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Old Feb 12, 2019, 6:19 pm
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I bit and went for the more expensive but more compact Klymit Ultralite. I use a garment bag and not a standard rollaboard suitcase, so space is an absolute premium for me. At 2.5" x 6.5", this should take up very little room. And it is narrower than the MoonLence so should fit in the pod better.

Anyway....I've got 3 ULH flights (AC15/16 & 2 x AC33/34) coming up in the next 4 weeks and given that I am currently running at a 70% failure rate for my last 4 trips, I'm sure I'll have to deploy this pad at some point.

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Old Feb 12, 2019, 11:09 pm
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I think the next step in this airborne camping experience is to pitch a small tent around your pod, for that first-class private suite experience.
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Old Feb 13, 2019, 1:40 am
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Originally Posted by D582
I think the next step in this airborne camping experience is to pitch a small tent around your pod, for that first-class private suite experience.
It wards off evil. I took mine on AC1 and seat stayed INFLATED the whole way. I needed resuscitation (but not the mattress)
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Old Feb 13, 2019, 7:32 am
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Originally Posted by D582
I think the next step in this airborne camping experience is to pitch a small tent around your pod, for that first-class private suite experience.
S'mores as the new 'Signature Dessert'....
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