Old Feb 2, 22, 11:40 pm
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The gist of this thread is that if you board while waiting for an upgrade, and someone no-shows for J, there is a decent chance the agent will not come on to upgrade you. There are no guarantees either way though.
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YBYL (You Board You Lose) on AC?

Old Feb 6, 18, 2:41 pm
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Originally Posted by RangerNS
It is newish, and probably does reduce a lot of shenanigans.

YBYL is, I think, more about OpUps.
No, it's entirely about people waitlisted for upgrades.

The DL thread that inspired this: YBYL (you board, you lose) policy is now more flexible
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Old Feb 7, 18, 8:12 am
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Whomever the passenger was talking to, the conversation was going on before the passenger boarded and continued after he left.Though the pax was originally seated in PY, he boarded closer to zone 3 or 4. That would have left lots of time for him to be paged before boarding.I was left with the impression the person at the other end was looking at EF and saw J1 pop up at the last minute.Wouldn't a good concierge have boarded the plane with the passengers new boarding pass!?
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Old Feb 10, 18, 10:44 am
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Originally Posted by Jumper Jack
I am slightly concerned about my YYZ MCO flight, booked in X but paid for I, should I go to gate directly and wait there until last minute to ensure I will get upgraded properly or just let the GA do his thing?

On the other hand, I have seen plenty of times GA(or FA) coming in to PY or Y to present ppl with boarding passes so maybe the system does work(sometimes)
I get this done in the MLL (where available). Just tell the agent your situation and they will put you on the waitlist, and you will most likely be number one.
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Old Feb 10, 18, 12:17 pm
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Originally Posted by yyznomad
I get this done in the MLL (where available). Just tell the agent your situation and they will put you on the waitlist, and you will most likely be number one.
Your AC*SM makes you most likely number one, but that wouldn't apply to Jack.
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Old Feb 10, 18, 1:35 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
Your AC*SM makes you most likely number one, but that wouldn't apply to Jack.
Esp consider there is only 3 seats left, doesn't look good for me

Well on the other hand its 2.5 hours so can't be that bad... Right?

I am wondering why AC just can't slot me into an empty J seat at the time of check-in instead of dump me into the gate roulette,esp since I did pay the full business reward miles for it.
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Originally Posted by Jumper Jack
Esp consider there is only 3 seats left, doesn't look good for me

Well on the other hand its 2.5 hours so can't be that bad... Right?

I am wondering why AC just can't slot me into an empty J seat at the time of check-in instead of dump me into the gate roulette,esp since I did pay the full business reward miles for it.
Isnt that a Rouge route? So its 2.5h (more like 3 in the aircraft) in Rouge Y. AC wants all the $$$ they can from LMUs and, to be honest, status may trump you here.

I suggest go book a preferred seat if you havent already. Its probably only $30 for you.
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Old Feb 10, 18, 2:56 pm
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Originally Posted by Jumper Jack
Esp consider there is only 3 seats left, doesn't look good for me

Well on the other hand its 2.5 hours so can't be that bad... Right?

I am wondering why AC just can't slot me into an empty J seat at the time of check-in instead of dump me into the gate roulette,esp since I did pay the full business reward miles for it.
You got exactly what you paid for. Website advertised X for $Y, you paid $Y, and you got X. And in this case, X is... X.

I was at Target recently. 2L of Coke Zero was $1.25. 600mL of Coke Zero was also $1.25. Except they were out of the 2L bottles. So I bought a 600mL bottle. I'm not entitled to the bigger one just because I paid what it would cost, had it been in stock.
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Old Feb 10, 18, 10:42 pm
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Originally Posted by jc94


Isnt that a Rouge route? So its 2.5h (more like 3 in the aircraft) in Rouge Y. AC wants all the $$$ they can from LMUs and, to be honest, status may trump you here.

I suggest go book a preferred seat if you havent already. Its probably only $30 for you.
Does that get refunded if I get the upgrade at the gate?
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Originally Posted by Jumper Jack
Does that get refunded if I get the upgrade at the gate?
I suspect only if you write it. eUps will auto refund it, for this... I doubt it would be automatic.
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Old Feb 17, 18, 2:15 pm
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Just got burned by YBYL minutes ago on AC7560 (E75 YUL-YHZ). Its a very short flight so its not a big deal but its the principle thats the problem. Im one of the only ones to board with zone 2 so Im one of the only elites on the flight. Zone 1 only had the 2 pax confirmed in J. So Im sitting here in 12A and just watched 2 very surprised pax walk up to J class with the FA. Frustrating but what can you do.
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Old Mar 10, 18, 9:21 pm
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#1 on the upgrade waitlist for AC90 with a fully checked-in J tonight so had a vested interest in the accuracy of the answer to this question.

Gate agent assured me I could board with Z1 and they would come get me if someone no shows.

Flight attendant then advises me of the opposite: if theyre short on time (which is often the case), they wont bother coming to get me.

So if you want to be safe, Id advise waiting at the gate.
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I am currently on 920. 2 J passengers did not board. The GA came on board and moved the 2 top passengers on the UG list. They boarded and won.
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Old Apr 11, 18, 1:29 pm
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At YVR the other night for AC126 the GA made an announcement that business class checked in full, and that anyone on the upgrade list should board with their zone, and he would come onto the aircraft to move people if J seats became available. I was number 1 on the list, but didn't get a chance to see if he would have lived up to his word as Business ended up boarding full with no upgrades.
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Old Apr 11, 18, 2:11 pm
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Nothing here is absolute, but if one considers the spirit @canadiancow's OP in which he started this thread, I bet YBYL remains prevalent on AC.
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Old Apr 11, 18, 2:25 pm
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Originally Posted by yyznomad
Nothing here is absolute, but if one considers the spirit @canadiancow's OP in which he started this thread, I bet YBYL remains prevalent on AC.
I wanted to hear various experiences, and we have. Sometimes they come on, but sometimes they don't.

There was someone who mentioned in another thread that they or a their friend was in Y, waitlisted, and J left with empty seats due to no shows.

Coming on the plane takes a LOT more work than upgrading you at the gate.

If you don't absolutely need bin space right near your seat, I wouldn't board until the end if you're waitlisted.
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