Changes to Altitude 2018 announced
Oct 31, 2017, 3:33 pm
#16
Join Date: Sep 2016
Programs: Aeroplan
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If I recall correctly, for 2017 E35 could get up to 6 MLL passes, which was described by AC as compensation to offset the new rule excluding E35s from bringing in family members. Now the maximum is 2. Looks like part of a significant move to reduce numbers in the lounge. Since I expect to drift down to E35 this year, I am a bit annoyed. I expect higher status elites might welcome this change.
Now that eups are increasingly paired with co-pays, I can see AC being more generous with them. I will repeat my complaint that R-games plus auction plus LMUs make eups very difficult to value for anyone who does not buy a latitude fare well in advance of a flight.
Now that eups are increasingly paired with co-pays, I can see AC being more generous with them. I will repeat my complaint that R-games plus auction plus LMUs make eups very difficult to value for anyone who does not buy a latitude fare well in advance of a flight.
Oct 31, 2017, 4:06 pm
#20
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
Programs: FOTSG Tangerine Ex E35k (AC)
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Oct 31, 2017, 4:08 pm
#21
Join Date: Dec 2009
Location: YYC - not the centre of the universe
Programs: AC*S100K 1MM, LH FTL, Hyatt Globalist, Accor Plat
Posts: 4,768
Let's not kid ourselves. P25 is ridiculously easy to get in the current flying environment and it's a legacy tier more than anything. Don't think P25 would be a tier if it hadn't been before.
Oct 31, 2017, 4:16 pm
#22
Join Date: Jan 2016
Location: YYZ
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TPAC on OW can leave you virtually at bronze or whatever BA calls it these days. It's a taster that costs AC virtually nothing.
Well it used to, it gets closer to zero yoy. Especially with all the new copays coming into eUps.
Oct 31, 2017, 4:17 pm
#23
Join Date: Jun 1999
Location: YVR
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Oct 31, 2017, 4:25 pm
#24
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The ability to select later in the year is nice.
Sort of.
If I don't select until I need upgrades, then I have the option of taking something else.
But the longer you hold out on E50K for a friend, the less it's worth.
I guess I could get the 12 month Gogo. Unless that has an expiry date of Feb 28 2019.
Sort of.
If I don't select until I need upgrades, then I have the option of taking something else.
But the longer you hold out on E50K for a friend, the less it's worth.
I guess I could get the 12 month Gogo. Unless that has an expiry date of Feb 28 2019.
Oct 31, 2017, 4:30 pm
#25
Join Date: Mar 2005
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I am not entirely sure how much travel work will require me a year yet... (pretty spoiled by MLL, Priority Luggage, CheckIn and Security at this point tbh)
But if I have to fly ~20 segments a year, I think its worth around that range for me. To be honest it's likely to be even higher for others. 50 credits would enable Jack Sr to upgrade two and half more times on his YYZ-CDG flight.. so it's tempting
But if I have to fly ~20 segments a year, I think its worth around that range for me. To be honest it's likely to be even higher for others. 50 credits would enable Jack Sr to upgrade two and half more times on his YYZ-CDG flight.. so it's tempting
Oct 31, 2017, 4:52 pm
#26
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Oct 31, 2017, 4:53 pm
#27
Join Date: Jul 2008
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I still feel like the lounge passes are largely useless.
I've struggled to give mine away for the past few years as an elite.
I'm not really in the AC FFP anymore, I'm 35k now, but I'll be 0 next year. Is the 100k AQD still $20,000? Not to hijack a thread at all, but I couldn't imagine spending that on AC metal alone (or the confusing ticket stock thing) as any kind of leisure traveler, even a corporate traveler it seems would have to be in paid j or last minute y all the time to make it.
I've struggled to give mine away for the past few years as an elite.
I'm not really in the AC FFP anymore, I'm 35k now, but I'll be 0 next year. Is the 100k AQD still $20,000? Not to hijack a thread at all, but I couldn't imagine spending that on AC metal alone (or the confusing ticket stock thing) as any kind of leisure traveler, even a corporate traveler it seems would have to be in paid j or last minute y all the time to make it.
Oct 31, 2017, 5:00 pm
#28
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I still feel like the lounge passes are largely useless.
I've struggled to give mine away for the past few years as an elite.
I'm not really in the AC FFP anymore, I'm 35k now, but I'll be 0 next year. Is the 100k AQD still $20,000? Not to hijack a thread at all, but I couldn't imagine spending that on AC metal alone (or the confusing ticket stock thing) as any kind of leisure traveler, even a corporate traveler it seems would have to be in paid j or last minute y all the time to make it.
I've struggled to give mine away for the past few years as an elite.
I'm not really in the AC FFP anymore, I'm 35k now, but I'll be 0 next year. Is the 100k AQD still $20,000? Not to hijack a thread at all, but I couldn't imagine spending that on AC metal alone (or the confusing ticket stock thing) as any kind of leisure traveler, even a corporate traveler it seems would have to be in paid j or last minute y all the time to make it.
The "confusing ticket stock thing" is that it must be ticketed on 014, or the flight must be operated by AC. Same as UA.
$20k does not require buying J, though it can certainly help. This year, most my paid J trips have been WELL under 20cpm. Heck, most are under 5cpm.
Aside from a SFO-YVR fare I bought for like $250 in P (a bit over 30cpm), but even that was a negligible upfare from Flex.
Oct 31, 2017, 5:12 pm
#29
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I still feel like the lounge passes are largely useless.
I've struggled to give mine away for the past few years as an elite.
I'm not really in the AC FFP anymore, I'm 35k now, but I'll be 0 next year. Is the 100k AQD still $20,000? Not to hijack a thread at all, but I couldn't imagine spending that on AC metal alone (or the confusing ticket stock thing) as any kind of leisure traveler, even a corporate traveler it seems would have to be in paid j or last minute y all the time to make it.
I've struggled to give mine away for the past few years as an elite.
I'm not really in the AC FFP anymore, I'm 35k now, but I'll be 0 next year. Is the 100k AQD still $20,000? Not to hijack a thread at all, but I couldn't imagine spending that on AC metal alone (or the confusing ticket stock thing) as any kind of leisure traveler, even a corporate traveler it seems would have to be in paid j or last minute y all the time to make it.
Oct 31, 2017, 5:16 pm
#30
Join Date: Jan 2015
Location: YHZ | YYZ | YHM
Programs: AC 50K (*G), Hilton Gold, Bonvoy Gold
Posts: 636
Looks like I'm on track for E35K again this year. The new reduced bundles has little effect on my privileges as I will still have 30 eupgrade credits like every other year, and will have 2 less lounge passes to use on family/friends.
As well AC hasn't really said anything about our core privileges in this news. Are we sure that we will keep all of our current core benefits at this point?
As well AC hasn't really said anything about our core privileges in this news. Are we sure that we will keep all of our current core benefits at this point?