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Old Oct 12, 17, 11:03 am   #1
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YUL is AC's fastest growing hub in S17

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Montreal, with 10% of Air Canada’s overall departing seat capacity in S17, is the Canadian national carrier’s third largest airport operation after Toronto Pearson (27% of departing seat capacity) and Vancouver (12%). These figures include operations from Air Canada Rouge and Air Canada Express. When referring to OAG schedules, Air Canada has increased seat capacity from Pearson by 6.0% this summer and 9.2% from Vancouver. However the growth strategy for the airline from Montreal is more significant, with it being the only major hub for the airline to be reporting double-digit growth in S17. It should be noted that Calgary has only seen a 1.0% increase in one-way seats this summer from Air Canada.
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Old Oct 12, 17, 12:58 pm   #2
  
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It should be noted that Calgary has only seen a 1.0% increase in one-way seats this summer from Air Canada.
I think that's because YYC isn't a hub.

Or is it?

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Old Oct 12, 17, 1:15 pm   #3
  
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I think that's because YYC isn't a hub.

Or is it?
Well, what's the difference between "hub" and "focus city"? Apparently 1% growth isn't good enough for hub, but it is ok for a focus city.
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Old Oct 12, 17, 1:15 pm   #4
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I think that's because YYC isn't a hub.

Or is it?
it is considered one, apparently.
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Old Oct 12, 17, 1:41 pm   #5
  
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Well, what's the difference between "hub" and "focus city"? Apparently 1% growth isn't good enough for hub, but it is ok for a focus city.
No, at 1%, it's the slowest-growing hub, but AC reiterated the hub status at the investor day a few weeks ago, so I'm not sure why we're back to talking about this nonsense again.
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What a good time to renovate the security and check-in area then!
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While technically accurate, listing an airport as the "fastest growing" in its category is a bit disingenuous, as adding seat capacity to a smaller starting figure will of course result in a higher percentage of growth relative to the larger players of Toronto & Vancouver. I'm unsure of the value in hub-to-hub comparisons, but might it be more informative to analyze comparative growth as a trend, rather than as a seasonal snapshot viewed in isolation?

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AC reiterated the hub status at the investor day a few weeks ago, so I'm not sure why we're back to talking about this nonsense again.
Why the seeming insecurity about whether or not YYC is an AC hub vs a focus city? How does it noticeably affect anything?

Mind you, if Calgarians feel better knowing YYC serves as a bona-fide hub for Lethbridge, Medicine Hat and a portion of the Red Deer traffic, who are we to take that away from them?
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Old Oct 12, 17, 5:39 pm   #8
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Why the seeming insecurity about whether or not YYC is an AC hub vs a focus city? How does it noticeably affect anything?

Mind you, if Calgarians feel better knowing YYC serves as a bona-fide hub for Lethbridge, Medicine Hat and a portion of the Red Deer traffic, who are we to take that away from them?
You forgot Red Deer North, AKA YEG.
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Old Oct 12, 17, 7:27 pm   #9
  
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While technically accurate, listing an airport as the "fastest growing" in its category is a bit disingenuous, as adding seat capacity to a smaller starting figure will of course result in a higher percentage of growth relative to the larger players of Toronto & Vancouver.
Yes, exactly. I recall that roller derby was the "fastest growing sport" in North America, but that really means jack squat. Same with franchises that market themselves on "fastest growing".

Great percentage growth, but meaningless
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Old Oct 12, 17, 11:59 pm   #10
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I think that's because YYC isn't a hub.

Or is it?
Look at the recent expansion. It is clearly a hub!

A true hub uses Anamaniacs cartoon buggies to shuttle people through two kilometres of dead space.
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What a good time to renovate the security and check-in area then!
ok I lol’d
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Old Oct 13, 17, 10:36 am   #12
  
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Look at the recent expansion. It is clearly a hub!

A true hub uses Anamaniacs cartoon buggies to shuttle people through two kilometres of dead space.
You are shooting fish in a barrel.

Pick on somebody your own size. That could fight back. This is just punching a kid in a wheelchair. (And the MeepMeep busses are the least of the airport's problems.)
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You are shooting fish in a barrel.

Pick on somebody your own size. That could fight back. This is just punching a kid in a wheelchair. (And the MeepMeep busses are the least of the airport's problems.)
Meep meep!

As for YUL, there is no doubt that those who have travelled through/to/from there in the past couple of years have noticed the bunch of, dare I say, "improvements" including that of AC. I despise YUL less than YYC.
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Im happy to see FOTSG finally appreciating the grandeur of YUL.

You know you love it. Don't lie.

it's like when Anglos sleep with Francos for the first time. They end up moving to Saguenay.
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Im happy to see FOTSG finally appreciating the grandeur of YUL.

You know you love it. Don't lie.

it's like when Anglos sleep with Francos for the first time. They end up moving to Saguenay.
Ha. Francos... 'cause if you aren't throwing something you aren't communicating.



Little less hot, little less crazy in a worthwhile tradeoff you know...
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