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* Air Canada Signature Class customers travelling on an Air Canada-operated flight (to Europe, Asia and South America) originally booked and ticketed in the following booking classes will be eligible for access to the Air Canada Signature Suite: J, C, D, Z, P. Only Aeroplan flight rewards booked as a Business Class Flexible Reward or a First Class Flexible Reward in J, C, D, Z, P, I booking classes are eligible for access. All bookings in R class (including, but not limited to, eUpgrades, Last-Minute Upgrades, and AC Bid Upgrades), Aeroplan flight rewards booked as a Business Class Lowest Reward or a First Class Lowest Reward, Star Alliance Upgrade Awards, Business Class flight rewards booked and ticketed by partner airlines, and I (including Star Alliance Upgrade Awards), as well as bookings made during irregular operations where the customer was not originally booked and confirmed in one of the eligible booking classes, will be excluded. Eligible customers may not invite guests. Access to the Air Canada Signature Suite is not available to customers travelling on promotional tickets or employees.

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Old Dec 21, 2017, 8:49 am
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Originally Posted by Plumber
DOnt get your hopes up.... though I am curious in what order they would start loosening the eligibility requirement?
ie
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  • R class
  • IROPS
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  • Other Star Alliance Metal F
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  • Sun Destinations Paid AC J class
Am I missing any?
I suspect other airline J would be bad for lounge capacity. F maybe, but do any *A even fly F to YYZ any more?

I don't see R happening given the "rules" around the MLL and R.

I'd expect some variation of I class to be next on the list, but it could be "all I class" or "SE in I class" or some other restricted version.
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Old Dec 21, 2017, 8:50 am
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I’d venture I then R for SEMM only.

Or that bloke that has 5MM. I reckon he’d get in on Tango.
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Old Dec 21, 2017, 8:52 am
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Originally Posted by jc94
I’d venture I then R for SEMM only.

Or that bloke that has 5MM. I reckon he’d get in on Tango.
Has AC ever made a day-of-travel perk that only applied to MM?
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Old Dec 21, 2017, 8:55 am
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
Has AC ever made a day-of-travel perk that only applied to MM?
Define "day-of-travel perk".
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Old Dec 21, 2017, 9:17 am
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Originally Posted by yyznomad


Define "day-of-travel perk".
We can expand that if you want, to anything other than "your status will never fall below X" and "a friend's status will never fall below Y", that is ONLY available to MM.
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Old Dec 21, 2017, 10:58 am
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
Has AC ever made a day-of-travel perk that only applied to MM?
Top of the waitlist springs to mind

But just because AC hasn't done it before, doesn't mean they can't start now. It's meant to be an exclusive lounge, if they ever open it up there is a huge difference between opening it up to "all I" or "all R" vs just SEMM in one or more classes. Even just SE in those classes would potentially put it over the limit and it's better to do it gradually.
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Old Dec 21, 2017, 11:06 am
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Well I think I've said this before, but I can't see them loosening the requirements until they see what happens with the summer schedule.

Just because it's only 50% full during the winter doesn't mean it will be 50% full during the summer.
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Old Dec 21, 2017, 12:59 pm
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AC are going upstream and towards exclusivity w/ this Lounge.

The only expanded admission I could see would be 1 guest allowed for actual J/C fares (ie., NOT Z/P), and/or SE2MM access on upgraded bookings.

They should not and will not go much wider than that.
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Old Dec 21, 2017, 2:41 pm
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Originally Posted by CloudsBelow
AC are going upstream and towards exclusivity w/ this Lounge.

The only expanded admission I could see would be 1 guest allowed for actual J/C fares (ie., NOT Z/P), and/or SE2MM access on upgraded bookings.

They should not and will not go much wider than that.
Why on earth would they do that?

A bunch of people in this thread have said something like "I can see them opening it up to [my status level], but nothing more." I'd bet a fair bit of money that if there's ever a status-exception here, it's going to be SE or E50K. Not some other obscure level.

Guesting is something I'd like to see addressed, but I'm not even sure what I'd want as a user. If you're in full J and your +1 is in Tango, tough. If you are eligible to access the lounge, and your +1 is in I class on the same flight, that might be a reasonable expansion. But if you're paid and your spouse and two kids are in I class... is that reasonable? What if you're paid, and your +1 is in I class on a different flight?
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Old Dec 21, 2017, 3:04 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
I suspect other airline J would be bad for lounge capacity. F maybe, but do any *A even fly F to YYZ any more?

I don't see R happening given the "rules" around the MLL and R.

I'd expect some variation of I class to be next on the list, but it could be "all I class" or "SE in I class" or some other restricted version.
Doesn't UA fly many flights with cough, ahem " F" class to YYZ?
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Old Dec 21, 2017, 3:46 pm
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Originally Posted by IluvSQ
Doesn't UA fly many flights with cough, ahem " F" class to YYZ?
1. No, it's sold and marketed as business.
2. They wouldn't have access to this terminal.
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Old Dec 21, 2017, 6:48 pm
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Originally Posted by CloudsBelow
AC are going upstream and towards exclusivity w/ this Lounge.

The only expanded admission I could see would be 1 guest allowed for actual J/C fares (ie., NOT Z/P), and/or SE2MM access on upgraded bookings.

They should not and will not go much wider than that.
That's really confusing. If the expand it, it should make the policy easier to understand, not harder. Adding Aeroplan (I) and paid (LMU / big) upgrades should be on the list, and IMO that's as far as they should go as it normalizes their policy with the current MLL guidelines for non Elites.

No exceptions for SEs, MMs etc.
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Old Dec 21, 2017, 7:02 pm
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Originally Posted by yvr76
That's really confusing. If the expand it, it should make the policy easier to understand, not harder. Adding Aeroplan (I) and paid (LMU / big) upgrades should be on the list, and IMO that's as far as they should go as it normalizes their policy with the current MLL guidelines for non Elites.

No exceptions for SEs, MMs etc.
Adding LMU/bid (R class) without eUpgrades (R class) is not going to make things easier
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Old Dec 21, 2017, 7:10 pm
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
Adding LMU/bid (R class) without eUpgrades (R class) is not going to make things easier
Do Lat complementary upgrades book into P or R?
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Old Dec 21, 2017, 7:16 pm
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Originally Posted by jc94


Do Lat complementary upgrades book into P or R?
If you mean flight pass complimentary upgrades, they book into J, but they don't exist on international routes.

If you mean eUpgrades, then they all book into R.
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