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shawneve Sep 17, 2017 9:10 pm

Asked to remove hat by GA
 
Wearing my baseball cap like i do often when flying all day.
I was asked to remove it as i presented BP and ID. I think this was in YXE.

On another flight from YEG-YVR I thought I heard the GA say hats had to be removed as you approach counter during his announcements. The GA who took my BP did not ask me to remove it though.
Is this a one off or a new procedure?
If it is now procedure, there is potential for trouble here...

ricktoronto Sep 17, 2017 9:15 pm

What trouble? Take off the hat if that is their requirement.

Put it on again after you board.

Fiordland Sep 17, 2017 9:18 pm


Originally Posted by ricktoronto (Post 28827726)
What trouble? Take off the hat if that is their requirement.

Put it on again after you board.

One more thing to juggle with bag, personal item, boarding pass, and id.

shawneve Sep 17, 2017 9:25 pm


Originally Posted by ricktoronto (Post 28827726)
What trouble? Take off the hat if that is their requirement.

Put it on again after you board.

The trouble comes from when you ask the question - will religious head gear need to be removed?

canadiancow Sep 17, 2017 9:34 pm

My suspicion, based on where this occurred, is that it's to match your ID.

Different jurisdictions have different laws on what can and cannot be worn in IDs, but religious headwear is often allowed.

Also, there's a huge difference between being asked to remove your hat and being asked to remove your turban or yarmulke.

Though I suspect even then, it would be more the removal of a hijab that would cause problems.

songsc Sep 17, 2017 9:36 pm

Anyone tried to pass through immigration/passport control with hats?

I guess that's why GA made that announcement.

yyznomad Sep 17, 2017 9:39 pm


Originally Posted by shawneve (Post 28827716)
Wearing my baseball cap like i do often when flying all day.
I was asked to remove it as i presented BP and ID. I think this was in YXE.

On another flight from YEG-YVR I thought I heard the GA say hats had to be removed as you approach counter during his announcements. The GA who took my BP did not ask me to remove it though.
Is this a one off or a new procedure?
If it is now procedure, there is potential for trouble here...

It's been over a decade since I last wore a hat (baseball cap) onto a flight. I have never been asked to remove my hat when wearing one. However, even up to most recently, I have noticed that some GAs rigorously eyeing and checking and double checking the ID and glancing hard at me.

IMHO, I would chalk this up as a one-off GA. Who knows, maybe they were a new hire and just being extra buttocks?

The smallest state Sep 17, 2017 9:50 pm

When my daughter was 16 she had a pretty bad accident and hurt her eyes. She wore sunglasses for about 8 months out of vanity as she didn't like the way her eyes looked. AC GA (and other airlines + border security employees) asked her to take off her glasses, it wasn't a big deal, I just assumed they just wanted to make sure she wasn't wearing a disguise.

CZAMFlyer Sep 17, 2017 10:31 pm


Originally Posted by songsc (Post 28827773)
Anyone tried to pass through immigration/passport control with hats?

I guess that's why GA made that announcement.

I certainly have, and with zero comment from a live agent, nor auto kiosk snafu. My NEXUS card features a photo of me wearing a toque. And smiling. Quelle horreur!

Perhaps I should put ON a hat to match my ID?

yyznomad Sep 17, 2017 10:34 pm

This has to be a one off.. I mean if you pay attention to the number of people wearing baseball caps (amongst other types of hats that are not religious wear) at the boarding area alone... for any given flight...

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I've been asked to remove my hat at a bar when being carded... I wanted to consume alcohol, so I obliged.

CommentatusMaximus Sep 18, 2017 12:39 am

Sounds like it was a reasonable request and specifically for a security ID check. Not worth fighting it, IMO.

The Lev Sep 18, 2017 4:41 am

Flying on AA from YYZ - DFW yesterday they made an announcement asking everyone to remove hats and sunglasses when they presented their boarding passes to the gate agent.

I don't recall hearing that announcement before.

longtimeflyin Sep 18, 2017 5:15 am

The GA is simply doing his/her job to ensure IDs are matched. That said, he/she is also reminding travelers how to use said hat in a polite fashion. Wearing hats indoors is rude. The army taught this to me when I was a reservist.

Surprised I have to link this:

https://www.thespruce.com/etiquette-...ndoors-1216685

awayIgo Sep 18, 2017 6:03 am

Wearing hats is mandatory for some religions. It is not rude. Rude comes from one POV, It is inappropriate to generalize to everyone.

aSiAnRiCk Sep 18, 2017 6:26 am

You can start a Hat Lives Movement ;)


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