YYZ-SNN & YUL-DUB: new 737 routes

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Old Sep 13, 17, 7:04 am
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YYZ-SNN & YUL-DUB: new 737 routes

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https://twitter.com/airlineroute/status/907936312367366144
Air Canada 737MAX 8 will serve Toronto - Shannon and Montreal - Dublin route 4 weekly each from June 2018
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Please post in this thread as well. Helps to keep a record of new announcements in one place. Thx

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Have a feeling the 800 series flights will "Max" out quickly. And so it begins...


AC820 YYZ2200 SNN0930 Tu/ThFr/Su
AC821 SNN1030 YYZ1245 Mo/We/Fr/Sa

AC818 YUL2115 DUB0825 Mo/We/Th/Sa
AC819 DUB1020 YUL1200 Tu/Th/Fr/Su

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Does this mean they will have pods in J? Or domestic J?
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http://www.newswire.ca/news-releases...644157843.html

MONTREAL, Sept. 13, 2017 /CNW Telbec/ - Air Canada today announced expanded seasonal services to Ireland with new non-stop flights from Toronto to Shannon and between Montreal and Dublin. The flights will be operated using Air Canada's newest single-aisle aircraft, the Boeing 737 Max 8 featuring a Business and Economy cabin configuration.

"With the right aircraft for the right market, Air Canada appears to have the luck of the Irish and we want to share it with our customers. Beginning summer 2018, we will capitalize on the growing traffic between Canada and Ireland and launch two new routes to Ireland, Toronto to Shannon and Montreal to Dublin," said Benjamin Smith, President Passenger Airlines at Air Canada.

"Along with these new services, Air Canada is also enhancing its non-stop Toronto-Dublin service by increasing weekly frequencies to four from three, including daily service next summer, and transitioning it to Air Canada mainline from Air Canada Rouge. It will offer customers amenities such as fully lie flat suites in International Business Class, a Premium Economy cabin and seatback in-flight entertainment throughout the Airbus A330 aircraft that will fly this route. As well, we are also resuming our seasonal Vancouver-Dublin non-stop service next summer on an expanded basis, with up to five flights weekly between the two cities. Taken together, Air Canada will offer the best market coverage of any carrier between Canada and Ireland, with service between three hubs in Canada and two destinations in Ireland," said Mr. Smith

"Today's announcement is crucial in continuing and growing our political and economic partnership with Ireland. These new routes and the expansion of existing routes will help our Canadian businesses take advantage of the opportunity that CETA will bring on the 21st of September. Expanding Air Canada's networks abroad will foster the relationships needed for trade between Canada and Ireland, as well as the creation of good middle class jobs. We commend Air Canada for their leadership on the matter," said François-Philippe Champagne, Canada's Federal Minister of International Trade.

Jim Kelly, Ireland's Ambassador to Canada, said: "I warmly welcome today's announcement by Air Canada of new routes to Ireland and expansion of capacity on existing routes. Air connectivity is the lifeblood of tourism and trade between our two countries. This major expansion will further boost the strong growth in business and leisure tourism between Ireland and Canada."

Dana Welch, Tourism Ireland's Manager Canada, said: "We are excited about the new routes and expansion of existing Air Canada service. The increase provides a major boost for both leisure and business tourism from Canada to the island of Ireland. Tourism Ireland looks forward to working closely with Air Canada and the Shannon and Dublin airports to drive demand for the new flights. As an island destination, the importance of convenient, direct, non-stop flights cannot be overstated – they are absolutely critical to achieving growth in inbound tourism."

The new services announced today will be on sale from 19th September and commence operation in June 2018.‎
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The new services announced today will be on sale from 19th September and commence operation in June 2018.‎
Looks like we should know the seat layout for the MAX8 in less than a week.
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Does this mean they will have pods in J? Or domestic J?
Pods in 737s would be nice but seems unlikely. Some US carriers have pods on 320-family aircraft that they deploy to long transcons like JFK-LAX, but I don't know that AC really has enough routes where they could charge a sufficient premium for J to make that work.

Remember that the ETOPS 319s that serve YYT-LHR don't have pods.
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Looks like we should know the seat layout for the MAX8 in less than a week.
This also coincides with their Investor Day. Wonder if they'll give any further insight on the additional flexibility the updated Pilot agreement gives them.
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Pods in 737s would be nice but seems unlikely. Some US carriers have pods on 320-family aircraft that they deploy to long transcons like JFK-LAX, but I don't know that AC really has enough routes where they could charge a sufficient premium for J to make that work.

Remember that the ETOPS 319s that serve YYT-LHR don't have pods.
lots of American carriers offer real business class on long haul domestic routes. AC should be doing the same with its 737's yyz toSFO/LAX/DUB/YVR etc. it could easily have a sub fleet with good business class.
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Pods in 737s would be nice but seems unlikely. Some US carriers have pods on 320-family aircraft that they deploy to long transcons like JFK-LAX, but I don't know that AC really has enough routes where they could charge a sufficient premium for J to make that work.

Remember that the ETOPS 319s that serve YYT-LHR don't have pods.
I think the pods in 737's would also work well on LAX/SFO-YYZ/YUL routes
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Does this mean they will have pods in J? Or domestic J?
There are no pods on the 737-8 and I would wager (comfortably) there is little/no demand for J on YYZ/SNN & YUL/DUB. It's seasonal and leisure.
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There are no pods on the 737-8 and I would wager (comfortably) there is little/no demand for J on YYZ/SNN & YUL/DUB. It's seasonal and leisure.
Leisure? Do you have any idea how much work it is to keep up with native Irish drinkers?
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There are no pods on the 737-8 and I would wager (comfortably) there is little/no demand for J on YYZ/SNN & YUL/DUB. It's seasonal and leisure.
So the question is, would they run these flights as Int' J or more like Rouge PE
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So the question is, would they run these flights as Int' J or more like Rouge PE
The $64,000 Question.
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My Guess?? (and only a guess). As this aircraft branches out and does near-in flights
(YYT-LHR, YHZ-FRA, etc), I'm thinking it will be sold as PY. The current stand-alone YYT-LHR-YYT, is a quirky one-off flight and has a modified J service reflective of its short flying time on board.
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