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quantumofforce Aug 20, 2017 1:23 am

Air Canada and delayed flight statistics
 

18 Airlines That Are Constantly Delayed


https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/new...AqitpY#image=1

Air Canada made the list!

Flights delayed 33.4%
# flights in July 54,439
average length of delays 52.5 minutes


Sky regional made the list too (they fly under the AC brand)



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quantumofforce Aug 20, 2017 1:25 am


Originally Posted by quantumofforce (Post 28712221)

18 Airlines That Are Constantly Delayed


https://www.msn.com/en-us/travel/new...AqitpY#image=1

Air Canada made the list!

Flights delayed 33.4%
# flights in July 54,439
average length of delays 52.5 minutes



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I see lot is on the list too, probably will get worse now that they are down one 787 thanks to AC

yyz_atc_qq Aug 20, 2017 1:26 am

AC actually made the list 3 times

vernonc Aug 20, 2017 9:30 am

Not surprising to me based on personal experience as I think perhaps close to 70% of my flights were delayed in July by more than 20 mins incl 3 out of 4 TCON red eyes with two out of the 4 being delayed by at least 4 hours.

rankourabu Aug 20, 2017 10:26 am

It's not AC's fault. It's the airports they fly into.
It's not AC's fault, it's entitled customers who want on-time arrivals! The nerve.

Jumper Jack Aug 20, 2017 10:28 am

Air Canada Rouge also made the list

11. AIR CANADA ROUGE
> Flights delayed: 37.0%
> # of July flights: 4,406
> Average length of delay: 58.5 minutes
> Nation headquartered: Canada

So have Sky Regional (Which operates using AC logos)
7. SKY REGIONAL
> Flights delayed: 41.4%
> # of July flights: 3,835
> Average length of delay: 61.1 minutes
> Nation headquartered: Canada
Sky Regional began operation under the Air Canada Express brand in 2011. It has been expanding its fleet and adding destinations in the United States since then.

In total, AC made up 3 out of 18 airlines that are CONSTANTLY DELAYED

Which clearly makes AC, the best airline in North America, LOL

songsc Aug 20, 2017 11:31 am

But hey, CX, KE, OZ are also on the list. AC isn't falling behind its competitors.

Also, WS, WEN made to the list of fewest delays.

Staniel Aug 20, 2017 11:40 am

Sunwing is not on the list. I don't know how comprehensive this is.

Transpacificflyer Aug 20, 2017 11:50 am

The results are not being interpreted correctly. These are not delays. Rather, they are an extended Air Canada Experience opportunity. ACE for short. It's no secret that many frequent flyers relish and cherish their ACE events. (It is pronounced as per the French language, as "asss". I know this because I was in the MLL just the other week and one guy who had an extended enjoyment period was on his phone obviously bragging, because he was saying he was an ACE for having flown on AC that trip. He had missed his connection but had the opportunity to enjoy the delectable crackers in the MLL as he waited for his next flight a few hours later.

What better way to make new friends and meet old ones as you relax in the well appointed MLLs or airport gate areas. On board, AC guests have an extended opportunity to enjoy the comfort of the cabins, and of course, Air Canada's distinguishing warm & friendly service.

If you forgot what TV shows were popular 5 years ago, or missed some of the B films from last year, Air Canada has you covered with a trip down memory lane with its IFE content. And let's not overlook the AC catering which brings a whole new meaning to the term"delectable gourmet" cuisine. The extended onboard time means that the Air Canada customer has more time to enjoy that slice of Banana bread freshly extruded for the flight.

And please don't overlook the advertising placement oooops, I mean article in the WSJ Why Savvy U.S. Fliers Take Air Canada . The OTP of the airline is obviously unimportant because Americans just luvvvvvv the Air Canada experience.


Until such time as Transport Canada enacts legislation as exists in the USA and EU,and enforces that legislation, Canadian airlines will do whatever they want. The OTP is the direct result of "self regulation" in a dual monopoly market.

SparseFlyer Aug 20, 2017 12:24 pm

CX delayed 48%.

Worst than low cost carriers

CX worse airline confirmed.

SparseFlyer Aug 20, 2017 12:29 pm

I still feel like OTP is too biased and an unreliable stat.

Is there a website that compares flight times?

For example, I'd be more interested in total time between brake release and landing.

Ie, maybe AC has 30% OTP LHRYYZ and BA 90%, but maybe they both have the same average of X hours per flight from brake release to landing.

ridefar Aug 20, 2017 1:18 pm


Originally Posted by SparseFlyer (Post 28713899)
I still feel like OTP is too biased and an unreliable stat.

Is there a website that compares flight times?

For example, I'd be more interested in total time between brake release and landing.

Ie, maybe AC has 30% OTP LHRYYZ and BA 90%, but maybe they both have the same average of X hours per flight from brake release to landing.

I assume this is humorous? I would bet you are right about the save average of X hours, but who cares? If brake release is 3 hours late, what does it matter? Certainly the statistic OTP could be improved with additional data, but seems pretty useful to me.

canadiancow Aug 20, 2017 1:53 pm


Originally Posted by SparseFlyer (Post 28713899)
I still feel like OTP is too biased and an unreliable stat.

Is there a website that compares flight times?

For example, I'd be more interested in total time between brake release and landing.

Ie, maybe AC has 30% OTP LHRYYZ and BA 90%, but maybe they both have the same average of X hours per flight from brake release to landing.

That would mean AC is lying to their customers about the schedule.

SparseFlyer Aug 20, 2017 2:32 pm


Originally Posted by ridefar (Post 28714041)
I assume this is humorous? I would bet you are right about the save average of X hours, but who cares? If brake release is 3 hours late, what does it matter? Certainly the statistic OTP could be improved with additional data, but seems pretty useful to me.

You're right, I was completely in the left field.

What I meant was more something along the lines of from scheduled departure to landing. Something that can't be tampered with.

But I guess it's hard to say. We'd really need all the data and run different parameters in order to tell.

Because the stats can br easily tampered with, it would require multiple metrics to really evaluate OTP correctly.

Sopwith Aug 20, 2017 3:07 pm

Keep in mind that the airlines falsify the OTP data, i.e. anything less than 15 minutes delayed is called on time :rolleyes:. If they applied the same on time criteria to themselves as they apply to their customers the story might be quite different.


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