Exclusive: SFO near miss might have triggered ‘greatest aviation disaster in history’
Jul 11, 2017, 3:38 pm
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Jul 11, 2017, 3:51 pm
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If this is in fact correct, I suspect the pilots will be facing a pretty difficult inquiry.
Jul 11, 2017, 3:55 pm
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if this fact is correct lets hope AC is BANNED from SFO, for a few months, its the only way to get AC to do more than the last "hard landing"
Jul 11, 2017, 3:59 pm
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This sums up my thoughts on this matter well.
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/5...ml#post9827768
"Humans are humans ... so long as they are involved incidences like these will occur. It is in our nature, pilots aren't a special breed who were born without flaw.
And they were the first to be aware of their error from what the tape suggests. They were alert when it counted and therefore were able to avert a disaster ... what is the issue?"
http://www.pprune.org/rumours-news/5...ml#post9827768
"Humans are humans ... so long as they are involved incidences like these will occur. It is in our nature, pilots aren't a special breed who were born without flaw.
And they were the first to be aware of their error from what the tape suggests. They were alert when it counted and therefore were able to avert a disaster ... what is the issue?"
Jul 11, 2017, 4:00 pm
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Considering Asiana only got a 45 day ban and the appeal by the airline was thrown out, I'm certain AC won't get any additional punishment from the government, unfortunately given there was no loss of life here.
Jul 11, 2017, 4:00 pm
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Maybe this is what actually happened and there's an explanation for it. Maybe some of the initial assumptions are wrong.
Or maybe it's just total BS.
But if it truly was a miss by just 100' .... then WOW.
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Jul 11, 2017, 4:05 pm
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If I drove my vehicle at a high rate of speed and someone ran out in front of me and I almost hit them, the punishment is far less than if I hit them and kill them.
I'm not saying that there should not be an investigation or the pilots are not at fault; however, I am saying that there is a distinction between a scenario where something terrible has happened and narrowly avoiding such scenario.
Jul 11, 2017, 4:14 pm
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Jul 11, 2017, 4:18 pm
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I see that in the Aviation Herald: http://avherald.com/h?article=4ab79f58&opt=0
Again, until someone makes that report available for the public to see, I would suggest taking information with a grain of salt. I have no doubt that Avherald is a great source of information but like After Burner said upthread, I am finding it hard to believe.
Jul 11, 2017, 4:21 pm
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Jul 11, 2017, 4:26 pm
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Here's a look at 28L and 28R at SFO. Hard to mistake the taxiway for the runway in my opinion
https://i.ytimg.com/vi/Y9FzH3DkQhQ/maxresdefault.jpg
Jul 11, 2017, 4:26 pm
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It'd be wrong to dismiss this incident as not that serious. In this instance, circumstances allowed for an adjustment that led to a safe outcome, but that wouldn't necessarily always be the case as past incidents with unhappy outcomes have illustrated.
Jul 11, 2017, 4:36 pm
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<<<Climmy Posted
Unless you have the LiveATC app on your phone like I do.
Please no lectures about airplane mode.>>>>
Live ATC often has a delay. Even if you were listening in real time, unless you had the view from the pointy end, doubtful you would have had an full appreciation of what was going on. The Holding planes were lined up parallel to the active. When the AC plane flew over head the pax would have seen nothing.
Unless you have the LiveATC app on your phone like I do.
Please no lectures about airplane mode.>>>>
Live ATC often has a delay. Even if you were listening in real time, unless you had the view from the pointy end, doubtful you would have had an full appreciation of what was going on. The Holding planes were lined up parallel to the active. When the AC plane flew over head the pax would have seen nothing.
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Jul 11, 2017, 4:41 pm
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Well put. This thread reminds me of my mom in law who constantly complains that the Dr is wrong or doing his job wrong. My participation in this thread is similar to the conversation I have with her in real life. "You didn't go to medical school and if you got hurt yourself, would you treat yourself or would you prefer a medical Doctor?"
I prefer to leave it to the professionals. I think the main issue here on this board is a lot of people have some knowledge of aviation, and probably to a higher and more detailed extent than the average Joe, but that does not make any of us experts, save for a few real experts who I am sure lurk, but do not post.
I prefer to leave it to the professionals. I think the main issue here on this board is a lot of people have some knowledge of aviation, and probably to a higher and more detailed extent than the average Joe, but that does not make any of us experts, save for a few real experts who I am sure lurk, but do not post.