Another CBC article : granddaughter forced to sit in her own pee
Jun 19, 2017, 3:20 pm
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Jun 19, 2017, 3:23 pm
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For front cabin access, I remember on some airlines (ANA for example) there is a sign on the curtain saying "business class passengers only". Perhaps AC should get those signs as well.
From a sympathy point of view, I don't mind Y passengers coming to the front if they are in need. However, from a logical point of view, it's better to say no to avoid articles like this.
From a sympathy point of view, I don't mind Y passengers coming to the front if they are in need. However, from a logical point of view, it's better to say no to avoid articles like this.
Jun 19, 2017, 3:23 pm
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Jun 19, 2017, 3:29 pm
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Having one's employer pony up for premium cabin seating brings out the Victorian in some people to an extent that would embarrass Charles Dickens.
Also reminiscent of Raymond Chandler's "...the sort of people that disillusion you about what a lot of golfing money can do for the personality .."
Also reminiscent of Raymond Chandler's "...the sort of people that disillusion you about what a lot of golfing money can do for the personality .."
Don't golf either.
Jun 19, 2017, 3:34 pm
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@WR Cage
And if you wander over to the actual article on the CBC site, you'll find many of those who posted comments agree with you.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...says-1.4166122
And if you wander over to the actual article on the CBC site, you'll find many of those who posted comments agree with you.
http://www.cbc.ca/news/canada/calgar...says-1.4166122
Jun 19, 2017, 3:49 pm
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For front cabin access, I remember on some airlines (ANA for example) there is a sign on the curtain saying "business class passengers only". Perhaps AC should get those signs as well.
From a sympathy point of view, I don't mind Y passengers coming to the front if they are in need. However, from a logical point of view, it's better to say no to avoid articles like this.
From a sympathy point of view, I don't mind Y passengers coming to the front if they are in need. However, from a logical point of view, it's better to say no to avoid articles like this.
It seems Air Canada needs to enforce the rules, 100% of the time, and have signs to remind people to use the facilities that they are entitled to based on their class of service.
I've wandered to the back of the plane a few times to use the loo while having a ticket in business class and the look of those seated in the economy class cabin scared me enough to make sure I didn't do that again.
It's a two way street. Maybe AC should forgo curtains and have an electric fence!!
Jun 19, 2017, 3:57 pm
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Jun 19, 2017, 4:12 pm
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Osmond says the agent who helped her book the flight put the couple in seats close to business class at the front of the airplane so that her granddaughter, who's almost three years old, would have quick access to a washroom.
a) "Of course! Even though you're in economy, I'll put you in the front of the plane so you can use the business class toilet at your leisure."
or
b) "Certainly. There are two bathrooms in the back of economy and I'll put you back there."
Jun 19, 2017, 4:32 pm
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Wow after missing this all day, I figured I'd respond and get flamed, but enough people agree with me 
Exactly.
There was discretion. But this is literally the boy who cried wolf. After 3 trips in 2 hours to the J lav, why the heck would I believe "it's an emergency".
Agreed.
No, I pay for the advertised dedicated lav. I've absolutely told SDs when a kid keeps coming up that it's bothering me. And it's resulted in that kid and their parents getting talked to.
Because this was the third attempt. If the article had been "she had to pee for the first time, and there was a cart blocking the aisle, and the FA wouldn't let her go up front", I suspect you'd have VERY different reactions here.
All kidding aside, I don't think anyone seriously has a problem with a small child (or any economy passenger for that matter) using the front washroom in a true emergency. But according to the story, they had already went up to the front cabin 2-3 times before the FA insisted that she use the rear washroom instead. I don't think that's unreasonable.
Because this was the third attempt. If the article had been "she had to pee for the first time, and there was a cart blocking the aisle, and the FA wouldn't let her go up front", I suspect you'd have VERY different reactions here.
Jun 19, 2017, 4:45 pm
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+1 - I concur.
Just another rant about how bad service can be aboard... what a shame that policies get enforced... LOL
The mother said "closest". Maybe Granny never flew before to understand that there are lavs for each class of service or maybe she did not want to escort her to the econ lavs??
Safe Travels..
Just another rant about how bad service can be aboard... what a shame that policies get enforced... LOL
The mother said "closest". Maybe Granny never flew before to understand that there are lavs for each class of service or maybe she did not want to escort her to the econ lavs??
Safe Travels..
I get it. It's supposed to be a special bathroom but the last row of the class is inches away from the first row of the lowly main cabin. However on any airline I have NEVER seen this 100% enforced.
Jun 19, 2017, 4:50 pm
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No, I pay for the advertised dedicated lav. I've absolutely told SDs when a kid keeps coming up that it's bothering me. And it's resulted in that kid and their parents getting talked to.
Because this was the third attempt. If the article had been "she had to pee for the first time, and there was a cart blocking the aisle, and the FA wouldn't let her go up front", I suspect you'd have VERY different reactions here.
Because this was the third attempt. If the article had been "she had to pee for the first time, and there was a cart blocking the aisle, and the FA wouldn't let her go up front", I suspect you'd have VERY different reactions here.
What about it actually 'bothers' you? Does it bother you if you are in row 1 and someone with bladder control in row 3 has to go multiple times in a flight? What if I am with my 3yr old in row 3 and she needs to pee a lot? Does that bother you?
Jun 19, 2017, 4:58 pm
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It's a bathroom in a tube at 35,000 feet. They aren't 'private' bathrooms outside of that being the rule. If you are truly bothered by a toddler that might be potty training using the bathroom that is in the front maybe consider private.
I get it. It's supposed to be a special bathroom but the last row of the class is inches away from the first row of the lowly main cabin. However on any airline I have NEVER seen this 100% enforced.
I get it. It's supposed to be a special bathroom but the last row of the class is inches away from the first row of the lowly main cabin. However on any airline I have NEVER seen this 100% enforced.
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Facts gleaned from the Air Pax Rights CA Facebook....
...I'm also unsympathetic towards the Grandma because I have dealt with numerous females (wife, mother, mother-in-law, friends) whose attitude of entitlement at being the caregiver to a young child prevents them from seeing the reality of the situation. These over entitled caregivers get angry when the world does not adjust to their demands. No matter how reasonable an alternate course of action (e.g. ask the back end FAs to move their cart) they want the world to bend to their every demand.
...I'm also unsympathetic towards the Grandma because I have dealt with numerous females (wife, mother, mother-in-law, friends) whose attitude of entitlement at being the caregiver to a young child prevents them from seeing the reality of the situation. These over entitled caregivers get angry when the world does not adjust to their demands. No matter how reasonable an alternate course of action (e.g. ask the back end FAs to move their cart) they want the world to bend to their every demand.