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Same Day Changes & Standby

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What Are Same Day Change and Standby? Back to top

Q: What are Same Day Change and Standby?
A:
Same Day Changes (often called “SDC”) and Standby (sometimes referred to as “SBY”) involve taking a different flight from the one you were originally booked on without re-booking your itinerary, with no fare difference, and without the change fees normally applicable to your fare (specific SDC/standby fees are charged, as detailed below)
  • Same Day Change is where you immediately confirm a seat on a new flight or flights. As soon as you execute an SDC, your seat on your original flight is gone. You can change to either an earlier or later flight on the same day (see below for details)
  • Standby is when you put yourself on a waitlist for an earlier flight. The standby list is processed after check-in for that flight closes. Until you clear standby on a new flight, you continue to hold a seat on your original flight

Q: So can I use SDC or standby to fly to a different destination? Or fly from a different origin?
A:
No, this just allows you to change flights between the same origin and destination, with limited exceptions for co-terminals (e.g. YYZ/YTZ or LGA/JFK/EWR; see the applicable Routing section)

Q: Are all flights eligible for SDC and standby?
A: It depends on fare and market
. Markets are defined immediately below. For additional information, see the applicable Eligibility & Cost section

Q: What are the “markets”?
A:
  • Domestic (flights within Canada)
  • Transborder (flights between Canada and the US)
  • Sun (flights between Canada and everywhere else in North America)
  • International (everything else)

Q: Does it matter how I booked my ticket?
A:
  • It matters which airline sold your ticket (details in the applicable section)
  • It doesn’t matter how you paid for your ticket (cash vs points vs flight pass credit), although it may impact the cost

Q: Can I do this myself, or do I need an agent at the airport?
A:
In most cases, as long as you’re eligible, you should be able to request standby or SDC via the AC app or website, including paying any required fees. But often it won't work, for no particular reason. If you need an agent to do it, it has to be an AC agent at the airport (someone who has access to DCS, the airport system), not someone at a call centre. The only exception, for those eligible for access, is the Concierge call centre. That also refers to the Aeroplan call centre - Aeroplan cannot help you with SDC/standby, and any airport agent who tells you that you need to talk to Aeroplan is wrong, and you need to push back


Same Day Changes Back to top

Basics Back to top

Q: When can I make the change? Does it have to be on the day of my flight?
A:
SDC should be available online when check-in opens for the flight you’re currently booked on (24 hours in advance of your first flight). You should be able to request an SDC up until check-in for your original flight closes

Q: What flights are available for me to change to?
A:
You can change to any flight on the same operational (roughly 0500-0200) date (subject to available space, which is described below); that includes flights departing more than 24 hours from the one you’re currently booked on. You can’t SDC to a flight for which check-in has closed

Q: Can you give me some examples?
A:
Sure. Click on the spoiler below to expand a few examples
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Q: What space is needed on the flight I want to change to?
A:
You need positive space in your cabin, and on the flight as a whole. Your fare class is irrelevant. If you are booked in Y, and the flight you want is full in Y but empty in J, you cannot change. If you're booked in J, and the flight you want is J5 but Y-10, you can't change. If you're booked in J, and the flight is J5 Y-4, you can change, even though Y is overbooked, because the flight is not

Q: How do I make this change?
A:
SDC is available through the online check-in function on the AC app or website (as long as it’s working properly). You can request SDC before you start check-in or after you’ve completed it. You should be offered any available itineraries. If a flight isn’t showing up as an option, it’s probably due to lack of available space as described above, or in the case of connecting itineraries, it may not be a legal connection. An agent at the airport can also handle this; this includes Concierges (and, for SEs only, the central Concierge office)

Q: I’ve read through the FAQ and am curious about the technical details
A:
See this excellent post by D582



Eligibility & Costs Back to top

Q: What do same day changes cost, and what’s eligible?
A:
Both answers depend on the market and fare type:
  • Basic: not eligible
  • Standard
    • $150 domestic/transborder; or $100 for a few selected city pairs:
      • Flights between (a) Toronto (YYZ or YTZ) and (b)(i) Montreal or (ii) Ottawa
      • Flights between (a) Toronto Pearson (YYZ) and (b)(i) JFK or (ii) LGA or (iii) Newark airports
      • Flights between any of Calgary, Edmonton and Vancouver
    • $50 Sun
    • $100 international
  • Flex
    • $75 domestic/transborder
    • $50 Sun
    • $100 international
  • Comfort: $0
  • Latitude: $0
  • Premium Economy Lowest
    • $75 for domestic/transborder
    • $100 international
    • ??? Sun (not listed)
  • Premium Economy Flexible: $0
  • Business Class Lowest:
    • $0 for domestic/transborder
      • Note: the app/website want to charge $100 on Aeroplan Business Lowest bookings. The AC website does not make any distinction for Aeroplan tickets, and the fare rules should say SDC is free. You may or may not be able to get an agent to waive the fee, but should be able to get a refund after the fact
    • Sun/international: a fee may apply, but is variable depending on route/fare
  • Business Class Flexible: $0

Some fare rules also waive SDC fees. There are a lot of international Premium Economy Lowest fares that explicitly state SDC is free

Q: Do I have to pay the fee for each segment I change?
A:
No, you pay the fee each time you make a change. You could change all 3 flights on a 2-stop itinerary and pay the fee only once. However, if you make a change, then later decide you’d like to change flights again, you would have to pay another fee, regardless of how many segments you’ve changed each time



Routing Back to top

Q: What am I allowed to change?
A:
You may change the routing, but not the number of connections

Q: Can you give me some examples?
A:
Sure. Click on the spoiler below to expand a few examples
Spoiler
 


Q: The agent I'm dealing with says I can’t change connecting points
A:
Tell them to look at "the ACpedia page for Same-Day Change, under the header of FLAT Same Day Change Fee for Multiple Segments". The policy very explicitly states that you must have same day of departure, same origin, and same final destination

Q: I booked a flight from YYZ to EWR but I want to go to LGA instead, can I do that?
A:
Yes, you can change between co-terminals at your destination

Q: What if I booked a flight EWR to YYZ, can I leave from LGA instead?
A:
No, you can’t change co-terminals at your origin

Q: Can I SDC after I’ve already taken one or more flights, e.g. if I’m flying FCO-YYZ-YYC, can I SDC the YYZ-YYC flight after arriving at YYZ?
A:
Yes, you should be able to do it yourself online, or an agent can do it


SDC & eUpgrades Back to top

Q: I have a confirmed eUpgrade on my original flight. Can I SDC straight in to J on the new flight?
A:
No, you need space in Y to SDC into. When you SDC, you will be back in Y

Q: Will my eUp request carry over to the new flight?
A:
No, once you SDC, you will need to request the eUp again. You should be able to do this online, or an agent can do it

Bookings Involving Partners Back to top

Q: I booked my flight through United, can I do SDC?
A
No, it must be ticketed by Air Canada, meaning the ticket number must start with 014

Q: I booked YYZ-FRA-LHR, with one segment on another airline. Can I change it to YYZ-YUL-LHR?
A:
No you may only change segments operated by AC



Standby Back to top

Basics Back to top

Q: What flights are eligible for standby?
A:
Essentially, Comfort, Latitude, PY Flexible, and Business Flexible always get free standby. Basic is never eligible. Standard, Flex, PY Lowest and Business Lowest are only eligible on certain routes or markets. See the Eligibility & Costs section below

Q: When can I make the change? Does it have to be on the day of my flight?
A:
You should be able to request standby online when check-in opens for the flight you’re currently booked on (24 hours in advance of your first flight). But the standby list is only processed a short time before the flight

Q: So when does the standby list get processed?
A:
The standby list is generally run 5 minutes after check-in closes (i.e. 40 minutes for domestic flights or 55 minutes for international flights)

Q: If I don’t get a seat at T-40/T-55, does that mean I’m out of luck?
A:
No. If there are people who don’t show up for the flight (e.g. misconnections), they will clear more people off the standby list (the plane usually shouldn’t leave with empty seats if there are still people on standby)

Q: I don’t like the idea of waiting that late. Can I get confirmed earlier than that?
A:
That’s what SDC is for. On rare occasions, AC may clear people off the standby list earlier than the times above, but you’re usually not going to get confirmed until after check-in has closed

Q: There’s more than one earlier flight that would work for me. Can I standby for multiple flights?
A:
You can only SBY for one flight at a time, but if you fail to clear on that one, you can request it on a subsequent flight

Q: Do I keep my seat on my original flight?
A:
As soon as you clear standby for a new flight, you lose the space on your original flight. If you don’t clear standby, your original booking remains intact

Q: What if I clear standby but don’t board the earlier flight?
A:
You need to see an agent to try to get re-booked on another flight. You’ve in a difficult position because you’ve given up your original seat then no-showed the new one, so you have no confirmed space on any flight

Q: Can I cancel a standby request?
A:
As long as it hasn’t cleared. Once it clears, as noted above, you’ve lost your original flight, and you’ll need an agent to re-book you on something else. Note that once check-in closes, you will likely need an agent to remove you from the list

Q: I’m booked in a higher cabin than economy (whether originally ticketed or on some kind of upgrade). Can I standby only for a flight in my original cabin?
A:
Nope. If you have a ticket for a higher cabin, you’ll be on standby for space in that cabin and anything lower. That means if your original flight is in J, you could end up in PY or Y

Q: Would I get any compensation for the downgrade?
A:
No, because you chose to take an earlier flight

Q: This sounds kind of different from how I remember it
A:
AC switched to a new reservation system in late 2019, which brought numerous changes. Most were negative – previously you could standby only for the cabin you were booked in, and you didn’t lose your seat on your original flight unless and until you boarded the new flight – but some were positive, e.g. online self-service options

Q: Overall, this sounds kind of crappy. Why would I want to do it?
A:
If getting to your next airport early is important, and especially if you’re already booked in Y, SBY can be worthwhile. If you’re confirmed in a higher cabin, there’s a considerable chance of being downgraded, so it may be less appealing

Q: How do I request standby?
A:
Standby is available through the online check-in function on the AC app or website (as long as it’s working properly). You can only request SBY after you’ve checked in. An agent at the airport can also handle this; this includes Concierges (and, for SEs only, the central Concierge office)


Priority Back to top

Q: What is the priority for standby?
A:
As follows (this is very similar to the priority for eUpgrades):
  1. Cabin: Based on your ticketed cabin (i.e. upgrades don’t count)
    • Note: Paid J will rank ahead of any eUp requests in the J cabin (subject to space available on the flight – if the flight is full overall but oversold in Y/PY, your standby can’t clear, so eUps will clear even though your standby doesn’t). If you have a confirmed upgrade to J, you’ll be on standby for J, but with lower priority than everyone who’s already confirmed on the flight. The same principle should apply to PY
    • For seats in Y, J and PY will rank ahead of those ticketed in Y
  2. Status: VIP > SE 2MM+ with credit card > SE 2MM+ > SE MM with credit card > SE MM > SE with credit card > SE > 75K 2MM+ with credit card, etc. If two passengers are on the PNR, the priority might be based on the highest status, per this post
  3. "Fare": Brand comes first (PF > PL; LT > CO > FL > ST), so a low Comfort fare is higher priority than Flex M. Within a brand, fare class matters. If you bought your ticket through another airline, and you don't have a brand, they infer a brand based on the fare class.
    Fare class hierarchy:
    • PY fares: O > E > A > N
    • Y fares: Y > B > M > U > H > Q > V > W > S > T > L > K > G
  4. Check-in time: As indicated by your sequence number


Eligibility & Costs Back to top

Q: What’s eligible for standby, and how much does it cost?
A:
Eligibility depends on market and route; when eligible, standby is always free
  • Basic: not eligible
  • Standard & Flex
    • Domestic/transborder, only eligible for:
      • Flights between (a) Toronto (YYZ or YTZ) and (b)(i) Montreal or (ii) Ottawa
      • Flights between (a) Toronto Pearson (YYZ) and (b)(i) JFK or (ii) LGA or (iii) Newark airports
      • Flights between any of Calgary, Edmonton and Vancouver
    • Sun & International: not eligible
  • Comfort: always eligible
  • Latitude: always eligible
  • Premium Economy Lowest
    • Domestic/transborder, only eligible for:
      • Flights between (a) Toronto (YYZ or YTZ) and (b)(i) Montreal or (ii) Ottawa
      • Flights between (a) Toronto Pearson (YYZ) and (b)(i) JFK or (ii) LGA or (iii) Newark airports
      • Flights between any of Calgary, Edmonton and Vancouver
    • Sun: eligible
    • International: not eligible
  • Premium Economy Flexible: always eligible
  • Business Class Lowest
    • Domestic/transborder, only eligible for:
      • Flights between (a) Toronto (YYZ or YTZ) and (b)(i) Montreal or (ii) Ottawa
      • Flights between (a) Toronto Pearson (YYZ) and (b)(i) JFK or (ii) LGA or (iii) Newark airports
      • Flights between any of Calgary, Edmonton and Vancouver
    • Sun & International: eligible
  • Business Class Flexible: always eligible


Routing Back to top

Q: I booked a connecting itinerary. Can I standby for a non-stop flight?
A:
No, you can only standby for an earlier flight on the same route

Q: What if I want to standby from a non-stop to a connecting itinerary?
A:
No, same as above

Q: If I’m flying YYC-YYZ-YDF, can I standby for both an earlier YYC-YYZ and an earlier YYZ-YDF?
A:
Yes, but you can only request SBY for your next segment at any one time – you can only request for the YYZ-YDF leg once you’ve flown the YYC-YYZ leg

Q: I booked a flight from YYZ to EWR but I want to go to LGA instead, can I do that?
A:
Yes, you can change between co-terminals at your destination

Q: What if I booked a flight EWR to YYZ, can I leave from LGA instead?
A:
No, you can’t change co-terminals at your origin


Bookings Involving Partners Back to top

Q: I booked my flight through United, can I do SBY?
A:
Not through self-serve tools. It must be ticketed by Air Canada, meaning the ticket number must start with 014. There is a chance an agent can make this happen

Q: I booked YYZ-ORD, operated by United, can I stand by for an Air Canada flight?
A:
No, you can only stand by from segments operated by AC

Q: I booked YYZ-ORD, operated by Air Canada, can I stand by for a United flight?
A:
No you can only stand by to segments operated by AC

Q: What if the flight is a codeshare, does that change either of the previous two answers?
A:
No, codeshares are irrelevant
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Old Mar 31, 2022, 6:09 pm
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I seem to recall Delta's SDC policy has stipulated for many years that you can't turn AAA-BBB-CCC into AAA-CCC either, so AC's not alone on this.
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Old Apr 1, 2022, 1:02 am
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
No, not according to me.

The verbatim quote that I have so far is "...you can change a connecting point, but you cannot change from a connecting itinerary to a non-stop"

So my case of LHR-YUL-SFO to LHR-YVR-SFO should be allowed, but LHR-YUL-YVR to LHR-YVR would not. But there was nothing mentioned about adding a connection.
You may have read the post you’re responding to wrong, but Cow was specific you cannot change from a connecting to nonstop but the reverse should be allowed. The person you answered wanted to change YXX-YYJ direct to YXX-YVR-YYJ connecting and like all of us trying to make reasonable SDC requests is getting refused.
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Old Apr 1, 2022, 1:37 am
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My point was that I have heard nothing about adding connections.

I haven't been told it's not allowed or that it's allowed.

It's not something "normal customers" want to do.

That being said, one of my examples in my inquiry was that lre-COVID, if I showed up at YYC at 1200, the soonest I could get home was YYC-YEG-SFO. And I guaranteed I was booked on a (much) later YYC-SFO. So there are very valid reasons to add a connection.
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Old Apr 1, 2022, 1:46 am
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Originally Posted by yyzgigi
You may have read the post you’re responding to wrong, but Cow was specific you cannot change from a connecting to nonstop but the reverse should be allowed.
Oh, the irony! Please re-read the post to which you responded and note its author.

Originally Posted by YOWgary
I seem to recall Delta's SDC policy has stipulated for many years that you can't turn AAA-BBB-CCC into AAA-CCC either, so AC's not alone on this.
But is DL's policy communicated clearly to customers, and are staff familiar with it?

AC is obviously free to set whatever policies it likes (although the elimination of the ability to eliminate connections eliminates a competitive advantage that has previously led me to spend more money to fly AC), but it's an absolute shambles that no one on the front line seems to know what the policy is, the system's not properly set up for it, and it definitely hasn't been communicated to customers.

Just look at the fact we're currently reliant on canadiancow to leverage a relationship with an AC exec he built over drinks at a frequent flyer event to try to understand what the polthe. It speaks very poorly of AC's ability to manage even simple changes.
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Old Apr 1, 2022, 2:19 am
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Originally Posted by canadiancow
My point was that I have heard nothing about adding connections.

I haven't been told it's not allowed or that it's allowed.

It's not something "normal customers" want to do.

That being said, one of my examples in my inquiry was that lre-COVID, if I showed up at YYC at 1200, the soonest I could get home was YYC-YEG-SFO. And I guaranteed I was booked on a (much) later YYC-SFO. So there are very valid reasons to add a connection.
My apologies. Should have paid more attention to the thread… The dangers of posting at 3:00am. While AC may choose not to allow as per DL; for SDC to have any value from most stations adding a stop is essential. There is often one nonstop a day between non hub stations. So if I book YVR-YOW for example there is literally nothing else available.

I understand people have abused in the past for contest promotions or to create a segment/mile run with some nonsensical routings, but adding a valid connection for a normal routing shouldn’t be an exception if you actually want to call it SDC, unless you are very explicit in your marketing and fare rules.
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Old Apr 1, 2022, 3:55 am
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another data point..

​​​​​Just tried to do SDC from an early AAA-BBB to a late AAA -BBB. latitude award. Concierge confirmed ticket was.eligible, changed the ticket, then worked with their leads for 45min. Nobody could get it to reissue. Said only Aeroplan can do the reissuing required for SDC (but they're closed).

So right now I've lost the immediate upgrade on the early flight, and the flight I am moving to has 1 whole J upgradable seat.

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Old Apr 1, 2022, 8:23 am
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Originally Posted by expert7700
another data point..

​​​​​Just tried to do SDC from an early AAA-BBB to a late AAA -BBB. latitude award. Concierge confirmed ticket was.eligible, changed the ticket, then worked with their leads for 45min. Nobody could get it to reissue. $aid only Aeroplan can do the reissuing required for SDC (but they're closed).

So right now I've lost the immediate upgrade on the early flight, and the flight I am moving to has 1 whole J upgradable seat.
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Ridiculous.

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Old Apr 1, 2022, 1:09 pm
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Originally Posted by WaytoomuchEurope
Ridiculous.
TLDR: SDC is not for mere mortals. Barely even for Super Elites with lots of patience, who try to change one nonstop to another identical nonstop.

Upon landing in YYZ at 2pm, concierge office found BOTH my original and protected SDC segment were deleted. (So much for the phone concierge working with their lead at 7am).

Great YYZ concierge but they had to call central concierge on speaker.

1- They were first adamant I was never on either flight. (Though they all knew of my 5am call, and were expecting a call).

2- YYZ concierge had been shown my screenshots of ticket history, so he graciously pushed forward).
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​​​​​3- Said that latitude required me to be in the airport for SDC, a SE calling the concierge was not a substitute for being at the airport after midnight, and free confirmed SDC or SDS without reprice is only allowed for earlier, not later, flights.

4- Quoted more points if I still wanted to fly.
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5- Local concierge pushed them to fix based on what was documented/promised. 10min later they found a way to add the flight in Latitude at original cost.

6- Waitlisted me for the upgrade seat (which would clear immediately at booking for someone who buys a the same new latitude ticket as me between now and this evening).

7- Reminded them that concierge this AM doing the SDC had said it would auto process and stay in J, but if not they had noted they would call the dept that handles this to fix via manual override.

​​​​​8- I need a drink!
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Old Apr 1, 2022, 1:21 pm
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6/7 - Incorrect. Within 36 hours, nothing clears.

8 - Move to YYZ Dom in 5 hours and I'll buy you one
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Originally Posted by expert7700
1- They were first adamant I was never on either flight. (Though they all knew of my 5am call, and were expecting a call).
Can you clarify... you said you wanted to SDC for an earlier AAA-BBB flight, so I'm assuming AAA is YYZ? and you wanted to SDC to an earlier YYZ-BBB flight?
  • Despite having the boarding pass (adds to evidence despite not being absolute proof one was on the flight)
  • Despite they can check to see if you actually boarded the flight
  • How could they have the gall to declare that despite the concierge showing the ticket history?
  • If you were upgraded to J with eUPs, you could've shown your receipt of flight flown/eUps officially debited.
With the way you worded your description, it almost sounded like they were being accusatory rather than giving you the benefit of the doubt.
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Old Apr 1, 2022, 1:54 pm
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Originally Posted by yyznomad
Can you clarify... With the way you worded your description, it almost sounded like they were being accusatory rather than giving you the benefit of the doubt.
yyz-bbb
Had not checked in yyz-bbb but concierge saw my confirmed ticket. (maybe a FOTSG error?) when I called initially I said I hadn't checked in but would if it made SDC easier.

My posts said (or should have said) I wanted to confirm SDC to a later yyz-bbb.

5am concierge was helpful but stuck, and attempts to fix after I hung up apparently made it worse.

yyz concierge was helpful.

phone concierge that he had to call was accusatory that I was never ticketed on either flight despite very clear notes. We had to politely remind twice how fortunate it is they can look at ticket history or listen to the phone calls they record.
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Old Apr 1, 2022, 7:03 pm
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AC……you need to FIX this mess! These are people paying good coin for tkts and are only asking for what is represented as a part of the deal!
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Originally Posted by Altaflyer
AC……you need to FIX this mess! These are people paying good coin for tkts and are only asking for what is represented as a part of the deal!
Seems like wishful thinking when later in the afternoon, their own concierges were not empowered or trained on doing a SDC due to irrops and the fact that customer would misconnect otherwise. May expand detail in the no thanks concierge thread.
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Old Apr 1, 2022, 7:26 pm
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Originally Posted by acrooksie
I'm booked in a P fare for YVR-YYC-LHR.

- Will I be eligible to SDC to YVR-LHR?
- When does it get confirmed? Immediately or at check-in close?
- If it gets confirmed immediately, what's the policy? Allowable as long as there's J space? P space? Something nuanced and secret?
Well, good news. My YVR-YYC leg was oversold so, as I was waiting to board, the gate agents asked if I might want to fly direct instead, and apologized sincerely for the inconvenience. So my SDC wishes worked out after all, albeit indirectly.

The only sad part of the story is that the YVR Signature Suite remains closed.
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Old Apr 1, 2022, 7:29 pm
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I've had a concierge say "I would do it, but someone else put notes on your booking saying not to".

There's "fine I'll do it" empowerment, and then there's "I'm going to ignore what a supervisor put on writing" empowerment.
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