Is it normal to earn more miles at Esso than flying AC?
May 25, 2017, 11:39 am
#16
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May 25, 2017, 11:51 am
#17
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36 Miles.....ha ha ha ha ha ha. What an abysmal amount for AC to "award" someone.
You would need to take 347 round trips at 36 miles a segment to get 25000 miles or an award.
You would need to take 347 round trips at 36 miles a segment to get 25000 miles or an award.
May 25, 2017, 5:00 pm
#19
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Is it fair.... Is it normal ???
I'm having a better mile earning with my Lexus than their Dash Q400 !!!
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I'm having a better mile earning with my Lexus than their Dash Q400 !!!
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But you should ask @SeanPeeverabout his "fake" low AQM credits.
Last edited by yyznomad; May 25, 2017 at 5:45 pm
May 25, 2017, 5:42 pm
#20
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May 25, 2017, 9:09 pm
#21
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Looking at a dummy booking for YUL to YQB in June the difference between Tango and Flex is $95. Allowing $25 for checking a bag, $10 for seat selection, and even a $25 change fee leaves $35 difference, for which you get 75% of 250 miles. So you're paying AC at least $0.19 per mile if you opt for the Flex fare to get 100% mileage credit.
And millions of people apparently think this is an enticement to fly AC?
And millions of people apparently think this is an enticement to fly AC?
May 25, 2017, 9:23 pm
#22
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Looking at a dummy booking for YUL to YQB in June the difference between Tango and Flex is $95. Allowing $25 for checking a bag, $10 for seat selection, and even a $25 change fee leaves $35 difference, for which you get 75% of 250 miles. So you're paying AC at least $0.19 per mile if you opt for the Flex fare to get 100% mileage credit.
And millions of people apparently think this is an enticement to fly AC?
And millions of people apparently think this is an enticement to fly AC?
May 25, 2017, 9:39 pm
#23
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Someday AC may create its own points program. Until then it uses the other Star Alliance airlines and Aeroplan.
May 25, 2017, 11:25 pm
#24
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Disagree.
Guy earns more filling up his tank with Esso than Air Canada.
That is the long, the short and the co*k center of it.
Guy earns more filling up his tank with Esso than Air Canada.
That is the long, the short and the co*k center of it.
May 26, 2017, 1:04 am
#25
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Op drives a Lexus, pays for high octane fuel, selects a short route to support his weak theory, yet cheaps out on a tango fare.
So to answer his question, no it's not normal.
May 26, 2017, 7:45 am
#26
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Or how about the fact that doing surveys earns, which cost me nothing other than my leisure time, earning more than a flight. Ridiculous! Sometimes Asking Canadians have 5 minute surveys for 25 Aeroplan miles. That's almost as much as the flight, not to mention the +$150 vs. FREE.
May 26, 2017, 9:12 am
#27
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Or how about the fact that doing surveys earns, which cost me nothing other than my leisure time, earning more than a flight. Ridiculous! Sometimes Asking Canadians have 5 minute surveys for 25 Aeroplan miles. That's almost as much as the flight, not to mention the +$150 vs. FREE.
No more surveys for me.
May 26, 2017, 10:45 am
#28
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Is it fair.... Is it normal ???
I'm having a better mile earning with my Lexus than their Dash Q400 !!!
Attachment 33176
I'm having a better mile earning with my Lexus than their Dash Q400 !!!
Attachment 33176
May 26, 2017, 11:01 am
#29
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I did the surveys for years, at first I answered them properly, then I got bored and started doing it only once in awhile, finally I got to the point I was relieved at not being chosen and getting 5 points for attempting to take a survey. Then they sent me an email that said (paraphrasing) 'you live in the USA, this is only for Canadians, go away'
No more surveys for me.
No more surveys for me.
Asking Canadians also give VIA Préférence points. The rate of return in proportion to Aeroplan is very high. You get 2 VIA points for screening-out, which is disproportionately very high vs. Aeropesos.
I'm already closing in on having enough VIA Préférence points for a round-trip short-haul for my wife and me and my daughter already has enough as kids are 1/2 the points. I've only had the VIA Asking Canadians accounts for about 10 months...and there's only 1 ultra-short-haul actual Via Rail trip in all of that.
Last edited by YoYUL; May 26, 2017 at 11:07 am
May 26, 2017, 11:14 am
#30
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When I'm not in the mood for doing them, I'll deliberately screen out of them to get the 5 consolation miles. I always view it as resetting the 1 year expiry clock, so that I never have to worry about that.
Asking Canadians also give VIA Préférence points. The rate of return in proportion to Aeroplan is very high. You get 2 VIA points for screening-out, which is disproportionately very high vs. Aeropesos.
I'm already closing in on having enough VIA Préférence points for a round-trip short-haul for my wife and me and my daughter already has enough as kids are 1/2 the points. I've only had the VIA Asking Canadians accounts for about 10 months...and there's only 1 ultra-short-haul actual Via Rail trip in all of that.
Asking Canadians also give VIA Préférence points. The rate of return in proportion to Aeroplan is very high. You get 2 VIA points for screening-out, which is disproportionately very high vs. Aeropesos.
I'm already closing in on having enough VIA Préférence points for a round-trip short-haul for my wife and me and my daughter already has enough as kids are 1/2 the points. I've only had the VIA Asking Canadians accounts for about 10 months...and there's only 1 ultra-short-haul actual Via Rail trip in all of that.