Is it normal to earn more miles at Esso than flying AC?
#2
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Is it fair.... Is it normal ???
I'm having a better mile earning with my Lexus than their Dash Q400 !!!
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I'm having a better mile earning with my Lexus than their Dash Q400 !!!
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#4
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Good to know. So I guess the question is how far can your Lexus go on those 46 points vs the miles from YOW to YUL... Which, I'm assuming is Tango? I've only done it on train but it's more then 36 miles I believe.
I assume the Lexus offered greater leg room, fast security and other J like products.
I imagine via car, we're talking 600km? Which is YOW to YYZ. I seem to recall ~350 miles for that route. Meanwhile, my own car is doing most of it on ... 12 points.
YMMV?
I assume the Lexus offered greater leg room, fast security and other J like products.
I imagine via car, we're talking 600km? Which is YOW to YYZ. I seem to recall ~350 miles for that route. Meanwhile, my own car is doing most of it on ... 12 points.
YMMV?
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Good to know. So I guess the question is how far can your Lexus go on those 46 points vs the miles from YOW to YUL... Which, I'm assuming is Tango? I've only done it on train but it's more then 36 miles I believe.
I assume the Lexus offered greater leg room, fast security and other J like products.
I imagine via car, we're talking 600km? Which is YOW to YYZ. I seem to recall ~350 miles for that route. Meanwhile, my own car is doing most of it on ... 12 points.
YMMV?
I assume the Lexus offered greater leg room, fast security and other J like products.
I imagine via car, we're talking 600km? Which is YOW to YYZ. I seem to recall ~350 miles for that route. Meanwhile, my own car is doing most of it on ... 12 points.
YMMV?
But i digress.... this makes no sense.
#6
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Actually I think it does make sense. In most cases. If I flew AC even Tango YYZ to YOW I'd make many more aeropesos than driving. I think I'd make more than even if I was driving a Lexus.
Aeroplan points are intended for flying, so making more by flying makes sense. Now in the OP case he made more by filling up, but I think if you measure distance drivable on 46 points compared to flying it... you'd get more points.
Now this is making an assumption a it AP points being for flying... I realize that may not be a universal belief especially of late.
Edit - Oh yeah sorry I see the route. That's the one I actually did by train. I think my point stands that you can't compare points unless your car used all that gas in that ~144 mile drive. If that is your post was of a serious is this fair nature?
Aeroplan points are intended for flying, so making more by flying makes sense. Now in the OP case he made more by filling up, but I think if you measure distance drivable on 46 points compared to flying it... you'd get more points.
Now this is making an assumption a it AP points being for flying... I realize that may not be a universal belief especially of late.
Edit - Oh yeah sorry I see the route. That's the one I actually did by train. I think my point stands that you can't compare points unless your car used all that gas in that ~144 mile drive. If that is your post was of a serious is this fair nature?
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Actually I think it does make sense. In most cases. If I flew AC even Tango YYZ to YOW I'd make many more aeropesos than driving. I think I'd make more than even if I was driving a Lexus.
Aeroplan points are intended for flying, so making more by flying makes sense. Now in the OP case he made more by filling up, but I think if you measure distance drivable on 46 points compared to flying it... you'd get more points.
Now this is making an assumption a it AP points being for flying... I realize that may not be a universal belief especially of late.
Edit - Oh yeah sorry I see the route. That's the one I actually did by train. I think my point stands that you can't compare points unless your car used all that gas in that ~144 mile drive. If that is your post was of a serious is this fair nature?
Aeroplan points are intended for flying, so making more by flying makes sense. Now in the OP case he made more by filling up, but I think if you measure distance drivable on 46 points compared to flying it... you'd get more points.
Now this is making an assumption a it AP points being for flying... I realize that may not be a universal belief especially of late.
Edit - Oh yeah sorry I see the route. That's the one I actually did by train. I think my point stands that you can't compare points unless your car used all that gas in that ~144 mile drive. If that is your post was of a serious is this fair nature?
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Yup, from the front door of YOW to the front door of YYZ it's 443 km as per google maps.
When driving, it depends from where in Ottawa to where in the GTA you're headed. It can be under 400km to a little over 500km from east Ottawa to the west side of the GTA.
I remember from my old house in south Ottawa to my grandparents' house in just off Yonge St. in Willowdale it was exactly 400km (if you didn't get off the highway in Kingston or Belleville for a McD's stop/cheaper gas than the service centres on the 401, in which case it was more like 405km).
Yeah flying Tango makes AP Aeropesos these days. Wonder what it'll be like after June 2020?
Here's another example to show just how ridiculously low that YUL-YQB 'award' is. I can (and regularly do) complete a 10 minute Asking Canadians survey which awards me 50 AP miles. A 35 minute survey, which is roughly the same as the flying time between YUL and YQB yields 120-150 Aeropesos. Sad eh!
When driving, it depends from where in Ottawa to where in the GTA you're headed. It can be under 400km to a little over 500km from east Ottawa to the west side of the GTA.
I remember from my old house in south Ottawa to my grandparents' house in just off Yonge St. in Willowdale it was exactly 400km (if you didn't get off the highway in Kingston or Belleville for a McD's stop/cheaper gas than the service centres on the 401, in which case it was more like 405km).
Yeah flying Tango makes AP Aeropesos these days. Wonder what it'll be like after June 2020?
Here's another example to show just how ridiculously low that YUL-YQB 'award' is. I can (and regularly do) complete a 10 minute Asking Canadians survey which awards me 50 AP miles. A 35 minute survey, which is roughly the same as the flying time between YUL and YQB yields 120-150 Aeropesos. Sad eh!
#13
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Yup, from the front door of YOW to the front door of YYZ it's 443 km as per google maps.
When driving, it depends from where in Ottawa to where in the GTA you're headed. It can be under 400km to a little over 500km from east Ottawa to the west side of the GTA.
I remember from my old house in south Ottawa to my grandparents' house in just off Yonge St. in Willowdale it was exactly 400km (if you didn't get off the highway in Kingston or Belleville for a McD's stop/cheaper gas than the service centres on the 401, in which case it was more like 405km).
Yeah flying Tango makes AP Aeropesos these days. Wonder what it'll be like after June 2020?
When driving, it depends from where in Ottawa to where in the GTA you're headed. It can be under 400km to a little over 500km from east Ottawa to the west side of the GTA.
I remember from my old house in south Ottawa to my grandparents' house in just off Yonge St. in Willowdale it was exactly 400km (if you didn't get off the highway in Kingston or Belleville for a McD's stop/cheaper gas than the service centres on the 401, in which case it was more like 405km).
Yeah flying Tango makes AP Aeropesos these days. Wonder what it'll be like after June 2020?
Either way I'd rather be getting 350x.25 or whatever, but financially it's hard to beat $40. Unless of course you value your time, and that's the difference. 4.5h driving on a normal day, vs a 1h flight that isn't as affected by traffic.
I think the real answer to the OPs question relies upon some more details on mileage and then the calculation can be done...
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This is a fantastic post. Great job Dyno.
I don't think anyone, anywhere has pointed out the lunacy of earning more buy by gasoline to go from Montreal to Quebec by car than by AC.
This company really makes me chortle some times.........
I don't think anyone, anywhere has pointed out the lunacy of earning more buy by gasoline to go from Montreal to Quebec by car than by AC.
This company really makes me chortle some times.........