Air Canada bumps man off flight, separating him from girlfriend
May 15, 2017, 12:37 pm
#46
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Firstly, AC screwed up though where isn't clear. But it's not exactly on the same level as other recent stories.
I don't get why they sent the guy to YYC though, it's only marginally closer, and they have slightly more (well, maybe several more) flights a day to YXE, but wouldn't staying put have been easier and cheaper? I have to believe a hotel in YWG is significantly cheaper and just stick him on the daily non-stop.
Another question - yet again, did AC ask for volunteers? If not, shouldn't they be fined? That's what I want to know.
I don't get why they sent the guy to YYC though, it's only marginally closer, and they have slightly more (well, maybe several more) flights a day to YXE, but wouldn't staying put have been easier and cheaper? I have to believe a hotel in YWG is significantly cheaper and just stick him on the daily non-stop.
Another question - yet again, did AC ask for volunteers? If not, shouldn't they be fined? That's what I want to know.
May 15, 2017, 12:41 pm
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This guy has way too many feelings. Maybe he just needs a glass of wine and a good cry.
He's owed compensation if he was compliant with AC policies and those policies or regulations state he is.
He's owed compensation if he was compliant with AC policies and those policies or regulations state he is.
May 15, 2017, 12:48 pm
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Qingyan Liu even provided a sad emo selfie for CBC to share.
He seems like the kid in school who would call his teacher, "mommy", and got beaten up, and then his older brothers would also get beaten up, by the younger kids, when he would get his older brothers to help.
He seems like the kid in school who would call his teacher, "mommy", and got beaten up, and then his older brothers would also get beaten up, by the younger kids, when he would get his older brothers to help.
He applies for a job and his resumé is one of many being screened. The interviewer remembers his name from the CBC story, or simply googles his name and finds the story. Do you think quotes attributed to him like "it's about feelings ... emotional things" and "It made me feel very confused, lost and depressed" would improve his chances of being selected for an interview?
May 15, 2017, 12:54 pm
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May 15, 2017, 1:16 pm
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Going public with his story is folly in ways that Quinyan probably never considered. Hypothetical situation:
He applies for a job and his resumé is one of many being screened. The interviewer remembers his name from the CBC story, or simply googles his name and finds the story. Do you think quotes attributed to him like "it's about feelings ... emotional things" and "It made me feel very confused, lost and depressed" would improve his chances of being selected for an interview?
He applies for a job and his resumé is one of many being screened. The interviewer remembers his name from the CBC story, or simply googles his name and finds the story. Do you think quotes attributed to him like "it's about feelings ... emotional things" and "It made me feel very confused, lost and depressed" would improve his chances of being selected for an interview?
Always amusing that these threads turn into how the consumer reacts, rather than what took place.
Obfuscate, attack, obfuscate, attack. Same tactic, different day.
May 15, 2017, 1:23 pm
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The ONLY thing that I think Air Canada messed up was the fact they didn't pay for his hotel. At Calgary, I believe there's a Delta at the hotel, it's about $200 or so a night. The kid couldn't ponder up $200? No insurance? That's on him. HOWEVER, -should AC have picked up the tab, yes they should have.
I don't know how others here would react - would I pony up the $200 and call it a day? Yes. If I couldn't, then I'm definitely not an adult but the last thing I would have done is contact the media.
This other emotional distress thing is far overblown and if he is in fact completely shattered after this incident, then there is NO way that he is an alleged world traveler. So that makes him a liar, then? At the very least, I hope his girlfriend wakes up and realizes she was/am in love with a child.
So yes, I will attack the traveler because either he is exaggerating how he's taking this or he is not a world traveler.
Either way, I suspect this child needs his mother. My children would have responded more appropriately than he did.
I don't know how others here would react - would I pony up the $200 and call it a day? Yes. If I couldn't, then I'm definitely not an adult but the last thing I would have done is contact the media.
This other emotional distress thing is far overblown and if he is in fact completely shattered after this incident, then there is NO way that he is an alleged world traveler. So that makes him a liar, then? At the very least, I hope his girlfriend wakes up and realizes she was/am in love with a child.
So yes, I will attack the traveler because either he is exaggerating how he's taking this or he is not a world traveler.
Either way, I suspect this child needs his mother. My children would have responded more appropriately than he did.
May 15, 2017, 1:30 pm
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Going public with his story is folly in ways that Quinyan probably never considered. Hypothetical situation:
He applies for a job and his resumé is one of many being screened. The interviewer remembers his name from the CBC story, or simply googles his name and finds the story. Do you think quotes attributed to him like "it's about feelings ... emotional things" and "It made me feel very confused, lost and depressed" would improve his chances of being selected for an interview?
He applies for a job and his resumé is one of many being screened. The interviewer remembers his name from the CBC story, or simply googles his name and finds the story. Do you think quotes attributed to him like "it's about feelings ... emotional things" and "It made me feel very confused, lost and depressed" would improve his chances of being selected for an interview?
May 15, 2017, 1:36 pm
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The only reason I would have been annoyed that they had been separated is if I was the one that had to make a trip to the airport 2 hours away to pick them up.........TWICE! lol
I wish we had the whole story....who made the mistake, did he take any kind of meds before the flight which may have caused his "emotional" reaction, etc. I guess I just want to believe that this guy, who travels all over the place, had a good reason for his reaction...
But I don't think we will ever know the whole story...
I wish we had the whole story....who made the mistake, did he take any kind of meds before the flight which may have caused his "emotional" reaction, etc. I guess I just want to believe that this guy, who travels all over the place, had a good reason for his reaction...
But I don't think we will ever know the whole story...
May 15, 2017, 1:37 pm
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The ONLY thing that I think Air Canada messed up was the fact they didn't pay for his hotel. At Calgary, I believe there's a Delta at the hotel, it's about $200 or so a night. The kid couldn't ponder up $200? No insurance? That's on him. HOWEVER, -should AC have picked up the tab, yes they should have.
I don't know how others here would react - would I pony up the $200 and call it a day? Yes. If I couldn't, then I'm definitely not an adult but the last thing I would have done is contact the media.
This other emotional distress thing is far overblown and if he is in fact completely shattered after this incident, then there is NO way that he is an alleged world traveler. So that makes him a liar, then? At the very least, I hope his girlfriend wakes up and realizes she was/am in love with a child.
So yes, I will attack the traveler because either he is exaggerating how he's taking this or he is not a world traveler.
Either way, I suspect this child needs his mother. My children would have responded more appropriately than he did.
I don't know how others here would react - would I pony up the $200 and call it a day? Yes. If I couldn't, then I'm definitely not an adult but the last thing I would have done is contact the media.
This other emotional distress thing is far overblown and if he is in fact completely shattered after this incident, then there is NO way that he is an alleged world traveler. So that makes him a liar, then? At the very least, I hope his girlfriend wakes up and realizes she was/am in love with a child.
So yes, I will attack the traveler because either he is exaggerating how he's taking this or he is not a world traveler.
Either way, I suspect this child needs his mother. My children would have responded more appropriately than he did.
The issue here is that he got upset and that he didn't have insurance.
Maybe he flies BR a lot. Maybe BR doesn't do this to its pax. I think he should just change his handle...err... name.
May 15, 2017, 1:49 pm
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And the little denied boarding situation, but really, the issue here isn't what AC did or how AC handled it.
The issue here is that he got upset and that he didn't have insurance.
Maybe he flies BR a lot. Maybe BR doesn't do this to its pax. I think he should just change his handle...err... name.
The issue here is that he got upset and that he didn't have insurance.
Maybe he flies BR a lot. Maybe BR doesn't do this to its pax. I think he should just change his handle...err... name.
I think he is trying to set up an example and attract more traffics to his blog for more sign up bonuses
May 15, 2017, 2:02 pm
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Ok, I think we've all piled on this guy and his feelings. What if he recently lost his parents, what if he was going to propose to her, what if they recently lost a baby together??????
We don't know whats gone on in his life so that he may be emotional.
I personally think it may be a ploy to get 'compensation', on the other hand he should have at least gotten a hotel room. Guy buys ticket to Saskatoon and ends up in Calgary on his own dime.............no way AC.
I think we can all agree that AC has dropped the ball here................AGAIN!!!!
The passenger bill of rights cannot come soon enough. I am hoping for monetary penalties to be laid out and a way (arbitration, courts, some form of tribunal) will be established to force AC to pay up for their (near endless) mistakes.
We don't know whats gone on in his life so that he may be emotional.
I personally think it may be a ploy to get 'compensation', on the other hand he should have at least gotten a hotel room. Guy buys ticket to Saskatoon and ends up in Calgary on his own dime.............no way AC.
I think we can all agree that AC has dropped the ball here................AGAIN!!!!
The passenger bill of rights cannot come soon enough. I am hoping for monetary penalties to be laid out and a way (arbitration, courts, some form of tribunal) will be established to force AC to pay up for their (near endless) mistakes.
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May 15, 2017, 2:09 pm
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Going public with his story is folly in ways that Quinyan probably never considered. Hypothetical situation:
He applies for a job and his resumé is one of many being screened. The interviewer remembers his name from the CBC story, or simply googles his name and finds the story. Do you think quotes attributed to him like "it's about feelings ... emotional things" and "It made me feel very confused, lost and depressed" would improve his chances of being selected for an interview?
He applies for a job and his resumé is one of many being screened. The interviewer remembers his name from the CBC story, or simply googles his name and finds the story. Do you think quotes attributed to him like "it's about feelings ... emotional things" and "It made me feel very confused, lost and depressed" would improve his chances of being selected for an interview?
May 15, 2017, 2:18 pm
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I still don't understand how the way the situation affected him nullifies or detracts from how AC handled the situation.
This is one of those bizarre threads where the people accusing this guy of being easily affected are manifesting all the behaviours of people who are easily affected/offended in their own reaction to him. They're as offended by his behaviour as he is by AC, but the offence they take is presumably more justified and righteous.
And for those of you waiting with bated breath for a passenger bill of rights... Good luck. It's being put forward by a department that has a history of putting airlines ahead of passengers. It would be foolhardy to the extreme to expect that this bill of rights will be any different.
But we can hope, I guess.
This is one of those bizarre threads where the people accusing this guy of being easily affected are manifesting all the behaviours of people who are easily affected/offended in their own reaction to him. They're as offended by his behaviour as he is by AC, but the offence they take is presumably more justified and righteous.
And for those of you waiting with bated breath for a passenger bill of rights... Good luck. It's being put forward by a department that has a history of putting airlines ahead of passengers. It would be foolhardy to the extreme to expect that this bill of rights will be any different.
But we can hope, I guess.
May 15, 2017, 2:20 pm
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I still don't understand how the way the situation affected him nullifies or detracts from how AC handled the situation.
This is one of those bizarre threads where the people accusing this guy of being easily affected are manifesting all the behaviours of people who are easily affected/offended in their own reaction to him. They're as offended by his behaviour as he is by AC, but the offence they take is presumably more justified and righteous.
And for those of you waiting with bated breath for a passenger bill of rights... Good luck. It's being put forward by a department that has a history of putting airlines ahead of passengers. It would be foolhardy to the extreme to expect that this bill of rights will be any different.
But we can hope, I guess.
This is one of those bizarre threads where the people accusing this guy of being easily affected are manifesting all the behaviours of people who are easily affected/offended in their own reaction to him. They're as offended by his behaviour as he is by AC, but the offence they take is presumably more justified and righteous.
And for those of you waiting with bated breath for a passenger bill of rights... Good luck. It's being put forward by a department that has a history of putting airlines ahead of passengers. It would be foolhardy to the extreme to expect that this bill of rights will be any different.
But we can hope, I guess.
May 15, 2017, 2:51 pm
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I still don't understand how the way the situation affected him nullifies or detracts from how AC handled the situation.
This is one of those bizarre threads where the people accusing this guy of being easily affected are manifesting all the behaviours of people who are easily affected/offended in their own reaction to him. They're as offended by his behaviour as he is by AC, but the offence they take is presumably more justified and righteous.
This is one of those bizarre threads where the people accusing this guy of being easily affected are manifesting all the behaviours of people who are easily affected/offended in their own reaction to him. They're as offended by his behaviour as he is by AC, but the offence they take is presumably more justified and righteous.